*Jan Ainali:* thx for the link, we will have a look on that.
*Bahodir Mansurov:* that sounds great. Most of the people here use Android. We will deffinitely test it.
*Andrew Lih:* I havent catched the point. The presentation was about usability and how to run it. For image uploads we can run it just once or maybe 3 times (different target groups). I hope we dont have to run it in all countries and all languages to get some needs and be able to request developers to make changes into software?!
If I understood well this team does not performed enough tests yet, so thats why they talk in general about Usability Testing?
Or maybe I miss something, you are talking about licenses. I dont understand how licenses are related to this issue? *I am just guessing:* Foundation is afraid to use easy mobile app for upload, because people will massively break license? Is that a point? Did Commons colapsed with Instant Commons? Did we got some images, when Instant Commons was enabled in MW distribution?
Juandev
2015-07-31 22:35 GMT+02:00 Pierre-Selim pierre-selim@huard.info:
2015-07-31 19:54 GMT+02:00 Andrew Lih andrew.lih@gmail.com:
FYI, for those interested in uploading to Commons, there was an
interesting
presentation at Wikimania about usability testing this.
https://archive.org/details/videoeditserver-96
The short answer to your very valid question -- licenses and copyright
are
complicated legal issues when it comes to media. That creeps over into usability in ways that are probably going to be very hard to solve.
I guess it adds complexity for sure, however it doesn't explains why we still can't do a proper image rotation or crop without hacking around JS or bots (which makes things complicated when the volunteer maintainer has enough of fixing is code due to change mediawiki).
-Andrew
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Juan de Vojníkov < juandevojnikov@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to ask, if the ease of media handling (images, photographs
on
Wikimedia Commons) is a priority for Wikimedia Foundation? If not,
could
it
be a priority? Recently we have seen a big step done for editors = VisualEditor. Contributors have no longer study "wikicode" to be able
to
contribute. That removes one of the technological barriers and it looks
its
a priority for WMF.
While part of contributing to Wikipedia is still contributing by
images.
I
am from Wikimedia Czech republic. We run many projects based on media harvest or organizing *low barrier media harvest activities* to bring
new
users to Wikipedia.
As our newbies are not technologically skilled and not native English speakers, there is a big technology block to contribute to Wikipedia
with
ease:
there is no app for mobile phones and tablets for image upload
newbies are lost, when they click on "Upload image" and they are
transferred from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons
- Wikimedia Commons is in English - foreign language for our
participants
- biggest language barrier are categories, which are in English only,
we
need to insert name of the category in our mother tongue
Wikimedia Commons environment is still pretty "techy"
Insert metadata, takes a long time:
e.g.: you have an image of a cathedral in Des Moines, IW. 3 or 4 times
you
have to insert same information: a) to file name (*Des Moines, cathedral.jpg*), b) to file description (*en:** Cathedral in Des
Moines,
Iowa, USA*/*es:* *La catedral de XY en Des Moines, Iowa, EEUU*) and c)
to
the category (*category:Des Moines* or *Churches in Des Moines*, *category:Cathedrals in Iowa*).
Its 2015, there are many social projects around us. You can handle
images
much easier on these projects than on mother of all social projects - Wikipedia. Big step was done with using images allready present in
Commons.
Could we do something for those, who contributes with their media to Wikipedia? Could we do it in one or two years?
Thank you very much for your concern!
Regards,
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