The banner without the ribbon is good, but the ribbon is unnecessary and
too flashy IMHO, I asked several people and didn't get even one positive
feedback. And my friends agreed it is the ribbon. We could use something
else to make the banner noticeable, now it's noticeable but in a bad way.
Best
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:24 PM James Alexander <jalexander(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Aye, I asked a designer to give some nice options and
presented them to the
committee. While there are certainly some people who have not liked the
banner I have generally heard good feedback overall from community members
(significantly more good then bad) and have made adjustments to the banner
to make it more accessible after some comments over the past 2 days. The
banner is certainly a bit more colorful then most but that is, indeed, very
much on purpose.
The board specifically asked Philippe and I to create some banners that are
a bit flashier so that we could draw attention to the call for candidates
(and the desire for diversity) and, later, the election itself. There was a
strong concern that the traditional banners were significantly harder to
notice and pay attention too and that drawing your eye was important for
this work.
There is no doubt that *any* banner gets complaints and is at some level
intrusive. However, I will say that it was important to me, personally, not
too be 'too' flashy. This is an election banner, not a fundraising banner,
and that's why I made it clear to our designer that it had to be smaller
and 'relatively' simple comparatively (this is actually smaller then
many/most banners that are shown for non-fundraising purposes just
brighter) and I think we came to a safe balance.
James Alexander
Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Gregory Varnum <gregory.varnum(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I should note it was a WMF design consultant that
did this and not a
volunteer (well - that it was not a committee volunteer I can verify). My
understanding was they were working from UX team's guidelines as they
design other banners for WMF. The request that we received was to go
with a
banner design that was intentionally not the same
as others. However, I
will pass the notes along for the next designs.
Also, I recognize it wasn't about the banner's existence or performance
-
I
meant that I hear complaints about the design of
nearly every banner that
goes up. I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a recent banner that
I
haven't heard a few folks offer opinions
about improving the look of. My
personal opinion is that it's an ongoing process, and the banners used
often reflect a snapshot in strategies being tried at that exact moment.
-greg
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Szymon Grabarczuk <
tar.locesilion(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, it's not about the idea of banners or about their usual
performance,
it's
about this particular ribbon. When I set anonnotice or sitenotice
on a
> big wiki, I aim the statement to be aligned with UX... discoveries.
Don't
> set extensive dark backgrounds (unless
it's about to be
> accessibility-oriented), use one colour palette, don't use many icons,
> borders or any additional/unnecessary/redundant elements in general, be
> consistent. WMF has UX team (it even has a Visual Experience
Designer), I
kindly
suggest to watch their efforts and make our users benefit from
that.
>
> On 22 April 2015 at 16:58, Gregory Varnum <gregory.varnum(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > To be clear by "our banners" I meant Wikimedia banners - not
elections
banners. ;)
-greg
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Gregory Varnum <
gregory.varnum(a)gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I appreciate that there are basically always concerns with our
banners.
> > Generally, I hear from volunteers on
nearly every banner we use. ;)
> >
> > That said, it would be helpful to have some more constructive
feedback
to
> > pass along to the next committee. What exactly would you suggest be
> > changed? Passing along the note "and some people disliked the
banners"
is
> > unlikely to produce much actual change.
> >
> > Anything specific we can pass along? Also, any examples of
alternatives
> > > can be saved and passed along as well.
> > >
> > > -greg (User:Varnent)
> > > Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Szymon Grabarczuk <
> > > tar.locesilion(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I must agree with that. I've received clearly negative feedback
from
> > >> several volunteers.
> > >>
> > >> On 22 April 2015 at 13:18, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > It's horribly ugly, I expected more.
> > >> >
> > >> > I don't want to de-value someone's work (a person or
persons
that
I
> > >> don't
> > >> > know) but we had way better designs before.
> > >> >
> > >> >
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