On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Patricia Pena
<ppena(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
All,
The local chapter processes payments in Switzerland and manages fundraising
banners and payment systems implementation. WMF is not running fundraising
banners in Switzerland.
If you spot any problems or issues, please do inform the local chapter.
Thanks,
Pats
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:35 AM, "charles andrès (WMCH)" <
charles.andres.wmch(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just try and I am randomly redirected to the
localize page or the WMF
page…..
Le 27 nov. 2014 à 09:20, rupert THURNER
<rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> a
écrit :
The day before yesterday I was presented a fundraising banner in
Switzerland which redirects to the donation page of Wmf, contrary the
chapters page.
Rupert
On Nov 26, 2014 3:18 PM, "Kim Bruning" <kim(a)bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Just following up,
>
> Has WMNL now received the sought information?
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 08:42:01AM +0100, Lodewijk wrote:
>> It seems everyone agrees it is an important method (although I'm not
100%
>> sure that the US based people running the
fundraiser fully comprehend
- I
>> am assuming this is the case), but there
seems to be some reason why
the
>>> WMF chooses to not make this option easily available. A reason they
>> choose
>>> not to disclose, but to be fuzzy about. I'm very sorry about this,
and
as
>>> Liam says, this fits in a trend with the Russian people no longer
being
>>
allowed to donate. Maybe the two are connected, but this is all
>> speculation.
>>
>> I'm sorry to see these steps back from the more open attitude there
was a
>> few years back. It feels very much that
we are, as a community, being
fed
>>> canned press answers. But then, maybe there's a real need for that
and
>>
there's a huge legal threat to making it easy to donate through bank
>> transfer that cannot be disclosed...
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kim Bruning <kim(a)bruning.xs4all.nl>
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> To amplify:
>>>
>>> Paying (business) taxes in The Netherlands now pretty much requires
>>> electronic payment to an IBAN Account; a.k.a. it is (now) the
standard,
>>> default, baseline way to make
payments at all.
>>>
>>> After registering a business, the very next action is to open an
(IBAN)
>>>> account. All extant dutch accounts that predate IBAN have been
>> converted
>>>> to IBAN. All administration systems (must(!)) support IBAN.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to do business in the Netherlands, you need to support
>> IBAN.
>>>>
>>>> Note that many (most?) dutch citizens do not have credit cards or
>> paypal
>>>> accounts.
>>>>
>>>> Further, IBAN is standardized throughout the euro-zone.
>>>>
>>>> iDEAL is nice to have and important. IBAN is a minimal baseline
>>>> requirement.
>>>>
>>>> sincerely,
>>>> Kim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0100, Walter Vermeir wrote:
>>>>> Op 17-11-14 om 20:28 schreef Lodewijk:
>>>>>
>>>>>> you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank
transfer
>>>> (using
>>>>>> an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page
>>>>>
>>>>> Historically the structure of bank account numbers are very
different
>>>>> from country to country. And
making transfers from one bank account
>> to
>>>>> an other bank account, especially internationally, are/where
complex
>> and
>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is still a lot of room of improvement but nevertheless it has
>>>>> never been so easy and cheap to do international transfers as now.
>>>>>
>>>>> The IBAN system - International Bank Account Number - is active in
a
>>>> fair chunk of the globe.
>>>>
>>>>
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Adoption
>>>>>
>>>>> Inside the EURO-zone , 19 countries, ?? 337 million Europeans ,
>> people
>>>>> can make a bank transfer to an EURO-zone IBAN bank account without
>>>>> additional expenses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many more outside the EURO-zone can easy make international
payments
>> to
>>>>> an IBAN bank account. That is not free ... but paypal is certainly
>> not
>>>>> free also. The costs are just deducted from your donation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The WMF has always has been a huge fan of payment by credit cards.
>>>>> Understandable, the WMF is founded in the country of the Credit
card.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that can make you blind to the fact that other people are used
to
>>>>> total other payment systems.
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of years ago I discovered that there where still people
>> using
>>>>> cheques in France. That came as a total surprise to me. I remember
my
>>>>> dad using cheques 30 years
ago. I never came in to contact with a
>> cheque
>>>>> since then. To my knowledge cheques where long gone. History.
>> Extinct.
>>>>>
>>>>> But ... when you have the financial business concept of the WMF -
>> when
>>>>> you need money beg for it - the donation channel should be tailer
>> made
>>>>> for the specific common way of payment used by the person who is so
>> good
>>>>> to be willing to make an donation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Walter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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