Hi,
To give a little more context: as I indicated on other places as well (and perhaps by other people), competitions across countries are hard to compare because they face very different challenges, and it is even unfair to assume they are the same thing. The goals were not always identical (in some countries a lot of value was added by laying foundations for future projects with the partners or by growing a team of dedicated volunteers where there was none before, in some countries the number of images was the most important factor while in others the long term effects of specific editors was most important - to name a few).
That is not to ridicule the work put into this analysis, I only want to make sure nobody jumps to conclusions here before reading more thoroughly the reports and looking at more data and most importantly: talk with the volunteers who organized the numerous (53 in 2013) competitions.
That being said, I think I could agree wholeheartedly if the conclusion were to be "money is usually not the bottle neck" (although there are exceptions).
Best,
Lodewijk (member of the (international coordinating) team of Wiki Loves Monuments 2010-2013)
2014-05-30 18:54 GMT+02:00 Jaime Anstee janstee@wikimedia.org:
Hello Lila,
I wanted to answer your question regarding the bubbles in the bubble chart as that chart has been pulled from our *Program Evaluation (beta)* reports, this one from the Wiki Loves Monuments report, available at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Library/WLM
The bubble charts are intersecting data along three dimensions, an x- and y- axis as well as a z-axis illustrated by bubble size. That particular chart, "Graph 2: Budget, participation, and photos added," illustrates the number of participants along the horizontal x-axis, budget along the vertical y-axis, and number of images uploaded along the vertical z-axis illustrated by bubble size and numeric label.
The data represent 11 Wiki Loves Monuments implementations in 2012 for which we had all three points of data reported. The reviewed contests had budget inputs ranging from less than $1,000 USD to almost $17,000 USD. The number of participants ranging from 75 to 2,005, and the number of images added ranged from nearly 2,000 to more than 30,000. (The raw data are also available in the original report as appendix tables)
The varying sizes of the bubbles — with larger bubbles representing more images uploaded — show that the number of photos increase significantly when events have over 500 participants. There does not seem to be a direct relationship between budget, participant count, or images uploaded. The bubble size doesn't get larger or smaller — meaning when more money is invested in an Wiki Loves Monuments implementation, that doesn't mean the event will have a higher participant count or a higher upload count.
Hope that helps to clarify the chart. Please let me know if you have further questions!
Best regards,
Jaime
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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Lila Tretikov lila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Rodrigo -- what do the bubbles represent in the chart -- countries?
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Pine,
For me, this is just a small and visible part of the iceberg, sadly. I not will go deeper in that, because I do not have stomach for,
patiences,
and way to do that.
I already send massages to Asaf pointing this, in respect. But thanks
for
the tip.
Cheers.
On 22 May 2014 03:52, ENWP Pine deyntestiss@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Rodrigo,
Thank you for these questions. There have been questions about the
India
program as well, so these questions about Brazil can be added to the
list
of issues for WMF to investigate.
I am not personally familiar with either of the Brazil or India
catalyst
programs, but I suggest that you contact Asaf or Anasuya if you don't get a
response
on this list or on the discussion page within two days.
Thank you again for bringing up these questions.
Pine
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