David, the only reason the discussion at T:MP is active is *because* a discussion was started here. Prior to this thread being started, comments at both COM:AN and T:MP had gone without reply for quite a while. I don't think it's terribly productive to complain about forumshopping in a thread about something that effects substantially more than just one project and was started before any of the threads on commons actually had active discussion. Doubly so because, as Risker points out, other projects transclude Commons' MOTD in to their frontpages, including projects in languages that do not number among the five that had any degree of context provided.
Nathan: I don't think there's any question that the video *could* have been appropriately featured, although it would have been harder to do on Commons than on a monolingual project. With a different still and the use of Wikidata to pull appropriate contextual information - which I believe is possible, though correct me if I'm wrong - Buchenwald is object Q152802 on Wikidata - the video could have been appropriately featured. Wikidata has enough interwiki links that it would've been possible to provide appropriate contextual information to a great majority of viewers of commons, whereas as it was many of them just saw a grainy black and white image of a stack of corpses with no context and no ability to actually even play the video in question (most Wikimedia viewers cannot play the video formats we support.)
Pete: you're right that discussion of how to improve process is something that needs to happen, although I think continuing discussion of the MOTD in question is worthwhile given that it's selection flies in the face of both commonsense and a WMF board resolution and a significant fraction of regular Commons contributors don't seem to see an issue with it. I'm happy to participate in any discussion about process, to assist in any process that results from such a discussion, and will probably start a discussion about it myself in the relatively near future if no one beats me to it - there's something seriously weird about the fact that a project that all other projects depend on has the media it displays on it's front page selected by pretty much one person with no oversight.
---- Kevin Gorman
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:14 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 May 2014 21:13, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
The person who selected the image does not care that most of the people who viewed that image saw only dead bodies without context.
You could go to Talk:Main Page and say that there. The discussion is quite active.
Argument from "I don't like it" in a forum-shopped venue, however, really isn't convincing.
- d.
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