I agree completely with this, there is no point potentially humiliating a bid team by revealing that they got very low scores, for example.
Perhaps a way forward would be that the scoring matrix for each bid team would be sent privately to that team (perhaps with some anonymisation of members of the jury), and it would be up to each bid team whether they wanted to make their numbers public.
Cheers, Craig
On 23 April 2014 03:02, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's happened in previous years.
I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public - and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being "second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference. Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do...
However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes or omissions aren't repeated in future...
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On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elyazal@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a
matrix
indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging criterion?
Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Christopher, Aya,
Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to
score.
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On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz mahfouz.saif.elyazal@gmail.com wrote:
Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City!
I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of choosing
the
winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has
mentioned, I
would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too.
Kind Regards, Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper < ct-cooper.wikimedia.ml@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped put
the
bid
together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great place
to
host
Wikimania and I look forward to attending.
Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City were
chosen
and where other bids could have done better will be posted
somewhere
for
digestion as done in previous years. In particular, while the bid
was
clearly lacking, it would be helpful to have an official answer to
why
the
Dar es Salaam was disqualified.
Kind regards, Christopher User: CT Cooper
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