I'm sorry a lot of these have been held up for a while; we've been mainly working on stabilizing the wikis under the new server setup and preparing to put out a new release of the MediaWiki software with all the latest fixes and features -- for which of course we'll want the latest language files included.
My old todo list page has gotten rather unwieldy and out of date, I'm afraid, and it's hard to tell what's been done, what hasn't, etc. It would be a big help if people could put the relevant information onto these new wiki pages (currently empty):
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_language_names All the suggestions for native language names that have been posted separately recently.
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_files_to_be_updated Please link to the exact wiki page that contains the updated file, or attach an update and send it to this list and say which was sent. If possible, please compare against the version of the file in CVS: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/languages/ and ensure that anything that got updated separately in CVS is also in your version.
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_language_bugs Any other bugs or problems that are specific to one of the languages/wikis: missing or corrupted messages, logo updates, sysops, etc.
Hopefully we can get these things cleared up in the next few days...
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Feb 24, 2004, at 4:38 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:
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My old todo list page has gotten rather unwieldy and out of date, I'm afraid, and it's hard to tell what's been done, what hasn't, etc. It would be a big help if people could put the relevant information onto these new wiki pages (currently empty):
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_language_names All the suggestions for native language names that have been posted separately recently.
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Is the intention that you are using ISO-639? or ISO-629/2? Or both? Or ISO-639 and ISO-629/2 and whatever we feel like adding?
See http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/langcodes.html
This page purports to list all the ISO-639/2 codes and, where they exist, the ISO-639 codes as well. I was looking for an authoritative page. The LoC does it for me.
Does it matter that "als" is not actually an ISO-639/2 language code? "Alcasian" does not seem to have been assigned any other code.
As I am looking at the langs table in the "experimental schema", I am curious if there is a reason you did not go ahead and put a column in for the locale, as defined in ISO 3166. The point is almost too obvious to make. Does American English equal British English? There may be no need for this right now. However, one can easily imagine that people might want to localize articles, as well as translate them. At that point, the locale would become significant.
- ray
Ray Kiddy wrote:
Is the intention that you are using ISO-639? or ISO-629/2? Or both? Or ISO-639 and ISO-629/2 and whatever we feel like adding?
RFC 3066, like the rest of the net, with a few rare exceptions such as als.
As I am looking at the langs table in the "experimental schema", I am curious if there is a reason you did not go ahead and put a column in for the locale, as defined in ISO 3166. The point is almost too obvious to make. Does American English equal British English? There may be no need for this right now. However, one can easily imagine that people might want to localize articles, as well as translate them. At that point, the locale would become significant.
No idea what schema you're talking about.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote:
Ray Kiddy wrote:
Is the intention that you are using ISO-639? or ISO-629/2? Or both? Or ISO-639 and ISO-629/2 and whatever we feel like adding?
RFC 3066, like the rest of the net, with a few rare exceptions such as als.
As I am looking at the langs table in the "experimental schema", I am curious if there is a reason you did not go ahead and put a column in for the locale, as defined in ISO 3166. The point is almost too obvious to make. Does American English equal British English? There may be no need for this right now. However, one can easily imagine that people might want to localize articles, as well as translate them. At that point, the locale would become significant.
No idea what schema you're talking about.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
He's referring to Timwi's schema proposal:
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_new_database_schema
This was a schema that Timwi posted to Meta shortly after Brion posted his to wikitech-l and meta. Timwi didn't bother to tell anyone about it, and it was quickly forgotten.
-- Tim Starling
wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org