At svwiki, there is a user account that has made no edits. However, the user account sends wikimail - nasty ones. I have so far recieved three of them, and this is in no way unusual. IP-check is being performed to see if the account is a sockpuppet of another registered user.
Is it possible to block the users ability to send wikimail? A block doesn't do that, blocked users can still send wikimail.
/habj
On 3/26/06, Habj sweetadelaide@gmail.com wrote:
At svwiki, there is a user account that has made no edits. However, the user account sends wikimail - nasty ones. I have so far recieved three of them, and this is in no way unusual. IP-check is being performed to see if the account is a sockpuppet of another registered user.
Is it possible to block the users ability to send wikimail? A block doesn't do that, blocked users can still send wikimail.
It's important that block users can send mail... this allows them to request that a mistaken block be removed.
Perhaps we could limit sending mail if their talk page is protected?
On 3/26/06, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
It's important that block users can send mail... this allows them to request that a mistaken block be removed.
On that I agree.
Perhaps we could limit sending mail if their talk page is protected?
Isn't it better that this function is completely separate? I.e. a button to press, or similar, saying "prevent this user from sending wikimail"? If the function is performed by admin, bureacrat, steward isn't important to me. I just think the possibility should be there
Should I understand your reply as "there is currently no such function"? Is it possible that this never happened to any other wiki? Sure there are bigger problems, but...
/habj
I think the reason it's not currently easy to do is the fear of abuse. Block a user, they complain about their blocking, get tired of hearing their complaints, block their ability to send wikimail, tada, they have no further recourse against possibly unfair actions.
That's not to say that's what's going on here, but rather, that's the situation which is being guarded against.
On 26/03/06, Habj sweetadelaide@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/26/06, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
It's important that block users can send mail... this allows them to request that a mistaken block be removed.
On that I agree.
Perhaps we could limit sending mail if their talk page is protected?
Isn't it better that this function is completely separate? I.e. a button to press, or similar, saying "prevent this user from sending wikimail"? If the function is performed by admin, bureacrat, steward isn't important to me. I just think the possibility should be there
Should I understand your reply as "there is currently no such function"? Is it possible that this never happened to any other wiki? Sure there are bigger problems, but...
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Hoi, This is not necessarily true. A blocked user should be able to send a message to an OTRS queue. There it will be dealt with by people who are not likely to be the person who is part of the situation. That is in essence a good thing because it de-escalates.
Oh, and by the way when you do OTRS work, it is not uncommon to hear some "complaints".. :)
Thanks, GerardM
On 3/27/06, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
I think the reason it's not currently easy to do is the fear of abuse. Block a user, they complain about their blocking, get tired of hearing their complaints, block their ability to send wikimail, tada, they have no further recourse against possibly unfair actions.
That's not to say that's what's going on here, but rather, that's the situation which is being guarded against.
On 26/03/06, Habj sweetadelaide@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/26/06, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
It's important that block users can send mail... this allows them to request that a mistaken block be removed.
On that I agree.
Perhaps we could limit sending mail if their talk page is protected?
Isn't it better that this function is completely separate? I.e. a button to press, or similar, saying "prevent this user from sending wikimail"? If the function is performed by admin, bureacrat, steward isn't important to me. I just think the possibility should be there
Should I understand your reply as "there is currently no such function"? Is it possible that this never happened to any other wiki? Sure there are bigger problems, but...
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GerardM wrote:
Hoi, This is not necessarily true. A blocked user should be able to send a message to an OTRS queue. There it will be dealt with by people who are not likely to be the person who is part of the situation. That is in essence a good thing because it de-escalates.
Oh, and by the way when you do OTRS work, it is not uncommon to hear some "complaints".. :)
Thanks, GerardM
Also, there are the public mailing lists...I think the block text on en.wikipedia specifically directs people to wikien-l.
Essjay
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