Wikitech-l July 2004

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Profiling functions and define
by Magnus Manske 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

I vaguely remember that the profiling functions (wfProfileIn/wfProfileOut) use up a lot of processor time, even when empty. I just saw the PHP "define" function, which seems to work similar to the C++ preprocessor #define statement. Would it be possible to "define" the profiling function names once, and define them as empty (or something) for running code? That would eliminate the need for the function call. I'm not sure that this is possible in PHP, however. Magnus

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UTF-8, excuse my ignorance
by Gerard.Meijssen 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

I remember somewhere that at conversion time the old stuff in articles are converted to UTF-8. At present I do my addition of all kinds of names for languages in the nl-wiktionary, words like ᎳᏛᏈ translate to [[ᎳᏛᏈ]]. This turns up perfectly well on the en:wikitonary. I just realised that this may not be as simple as that. My question, should these charactercodes be converted again on en:wiktionary ?? Thanks, GerardM

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Announce: Going to start phase4
by Enrico Weigelt 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

Hi folks, I'm going to do some quite huge changes in mediawiki and so going to start a forkoff into phase4. Some things I've already done: * rewriting some parts to run over patTemplate * splitted off the wiki into a (system-wide) library part and some very little stub for index.php -> allows multiple instances to share the same code and so ease updates. What I'm going to do: * database/storage abstraction (i.e. postgresql backend) * wiki middleware (for article storage, wiki-syntax parsing, ...) * support multiple parsers and converters (also xml<->wiki) * frontend completely patTemplate-based * integration into contentbuilder2/baseTemplate2 framework (so the wiki is just a box and can be easily imported into some other application awaiting you comments :) cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ fax: +49 36207 519932 email: contact(a)metux.de cellphone: +49 174 7066481 --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- DSL ab 0 Euro. -- statische IP -- UUCP -- Hosting -- Webshops -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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DNS for wikibooks.org broken
by Jens Frank 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

Hi, Subdomains of wikibooks.org don't work, only wikibooks.org and www.wikibooks.org are available, but not e.g. en.wikibooks.org. Regards, JeLuF

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suggestion from [Wikide-l]
by Tobias Hesse 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Hello! We have been discussing the following problem on [Wikide-l]: In the German-speaking countries de.wikipedia.org is used quite frequently to do research. More and more we are also linked in online magazines or even referenced in printed publications. Whatismore, many visitors reach us from google (we have got a very good rank for many key words) and then have no idea what the Wikipedia is about. They find useful data at the Wikipedia but often times - not to say most of the time - but don't know that everybody can edit articles. We aren't too concerned about the ones that believe everything even the rare facts that might be incorrect because nobody has revised them but we think that more people would use the opportunity to amend articles than do already today. We therefore would like to introduce a small JavaScript-script into the German wikipedia pages that shows a small text about the wiki principle to everybody reaching with an external referrer. First we thought about making realizing this via a php-Script but this would increase the load the server has to deal with whereas a JavaScript-script that is stored in every file coulod be cached. We know that there are still some browser out there that have problems with the more elaborate JavaScript-scripts but this probably is a problem of the not-so-widely-used, non-MS browsers. But then we figured that most of the time - and we know that this involves a lot of generalizing - those, who know the internet well use alternative browser and that those, who know the internet well, know at least a little about Wikipedia and the wiki principle. Has any of the developers any objections against anything like this? I'll post the script later on as it is still in development. Best regards wotan

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Compare selected versions javascript
by user_Jamesday 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

The script changes the display attribute of every button even if the button is already in the right state. Bad idea - typically only one or two need to be changed and browsers can be slow at making visibility changes. Changing from: } else { // no radio is checked in this row if(!oli) inputs[0].style.visibility = 'hidden'; else inputs[0].style.visibility = 'visible'; if(dli) inputs[1].style.visibility = 'hidden'; else inputs[1].style.visibility = 'visible'; to this version which only changes the state when necessary: } else { // no radio is checked in this row if(!oli) { if ( inputs[0].style.visibility != 'hidden' ) inputs[0].style.visibility = 'hidden'; } else { if ( inputs[0].style.visibility != 'visible' ) inputs[0].style.visibility = 'visible'; } if(dli) { if ( inputs[1].style.visibility != 'hidden' ) inputs[1].style.visibility = 'hidden'; } else { if ( inputs[1].style.visibility != 'visible' ) inputs[1].style.visibility = 'visible'; } should assist without the need to remove the work of whoever made the change.

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Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Multiple categories
by Nikola Smolenski 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [Wikitech-l] Multiple categories Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 12:07:09 +0200 From: Nikola Smolenski <smolensk(a)EUnet.yu> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)Wikipedia.org> I have made a patch which enables display of all articles that belong to multiple categories. Thus, for example, Category:Female/Orthodox/Saint would return all female orthodox saints (that is, all articles which are categorised with at least [[Category:Female]], [[Category:Orthodox]] and [[Category:Saint]]). I am not sure would this make for much greater database load, but that remains to be seen in practice. Line if(strchr($t,"/")) { and corresponding else block are actually not needed but I have left them because I figure that display of a single category is slightly faster this way, and that at that point it would be easier to turn off this feature if needed. It should also be easy to limit to number of categories if that turns out to be neccesary. Index: Parser.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/wikipedia/phase3/includes/Parser.php,v retrieving revision 1.135 diff -u -3 -p -r1.135 Parser.php --- Parser.php 15 May 2004 00:29:07 -0000 1.135 +++ Parser.php 30 May 2004 09:11:00 -0000 @@ -318,7 +318,21 @@ class Parser # FIXME: add limits $t = wfStrencode( $this->mTitle->getDBKey() ); - $sql = "SELECT DISTINCT cur_title,cur_namespace FROM cur,categorylinks WHERE cl_to='$t' AND cl_from=cur_id ORDER BY cl_sortkey" ; + $t = preg_replace("'/+'","/",$t); + if(strchr($t,"/")) { + $ta = explode("/",$t); + $tt="cur"; $tw=""; + + $i=0; + foreach($ta as $v) { + $tt.=",categorylinks as cl$i"; + $tw.="cl$i.cl_to='$v' AND cl$i.cl_from=cl".++$i.".cl_from AND "; + } + $tw=preg_replace("' AND cl[0-9]+[.]cl_from=cl[0-9]+[.]cl_from AND $'U","",$tw); + $sql="SELECT DISTINCT cur_title,cur_namespace FROM $tt WHERE $tw AND cl0.cl_from=cur_id ORDER BY cl0.cl_sortkey"; + } else { + $sql = "SELECT DISTINCT cur_title,cur_namespace FROM cur,categorylinks WHERE cl_to='$t' AND cl_from=cur_id ORDER BY cl_sortkey" ; + } $res = wfQuery ( $sql, DB_READ ) ; while ( $x = wfFetchObject ( $res ) ) $data[] = $x ; _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -------------------------------------------------------

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DNS changes
by Jason Richey 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

I made changes to the DNS servers for these domains: wikibook.com wikibooks.com wikibooks.org wikisource.com wikisource.org Zwinger is the primary, gunther.bomis.com is a slave to zwinger. The zone files are /var/named/master/wikibooks.zone and wikisource.zone As I understand it, there are several other domains that should have DNS set up on Zwinger and Gunther... -- "Jason C. Richey" <jasonr(a)bomis.com>

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Announce: Going to start phase4
by Evan Prodromou 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

> awaiting you comments :) Sure. Who are you? Do you have CVS access? Why are you doing a unilateral re-write? Why aren't the rest of the developers invited? Why should your unilateral re-write become THE mediawiki? Where's the design docs, and where's the code? Why are you using the obsolete "phase N" naming convention rather than the current MediaWiki 1.x (or 2.x) versioning scheme? ~ESP

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Sorting interwiki links
by Gerard.Meijssen 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

Relatively easy, you use the UTF-8 order for the non alphabetical stuff (I think it works like that). Anyway, the result is consistent :) GerardM -----Original Message----- From: Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:25:38 +0100 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Sorting interwiki links Andre Engels wrote: > In the Pywikipediabot, it is now specified to use alphabetical order by > language name How do you alphabetically sort 中文, 日本語, etc.? _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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