Wikitech-l July 2004

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Relative loading times across languages
by Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

Anthere reports that there is a general impression among the French that en.wikipedia.org loads faster than fr.wikipedia.org. Is this possible? Can we run some tests? ----- Forwarded message from Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> ----- From: Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:44:24 +0200 To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: Fork risk (was Re: Google ads) I can just say one thing I saw myself, and which was mentionned by several french people. When I have several windows open at the same moment, say three *one open on en *one open on fr *one open on www.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main Page The first page to load in en. Several seconds later, it is fr. And much later wikimedia. I cant avoid seeing that en pages are often served much quicker than fr pages. I know not why. I am sure it is not on purpose. But it is a fact. Thomas R. Koll wrote: >On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 08:41:55PM +1000, Tim Starling wrote: > >>If a Wikimedia chapter wants to buy servers for their language wiki to >>avoid slow, poor-quality service or site-wide advertising, then we >>should give them our blessing. > > >I'd prefer read-only mirrors which redirect the edits to the main >server. I don't know the situation at fr: but at de: we use wikipedia.de >not de.wikipedia.org in press news, so it would be easy to take some >good portion of the traffic off the Florida-servers. > >ciao, tom _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ----- End forwarded message -----

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Categorization
by Ray Saintonge 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

Wikisource has been working on its own way of dealing with categories, and we would like to integrate them with the development of infoboxes. We would (1) like the categories to be listed in the infobox, but we would also (2) like the article to be listed along with the other articles in that category. See http://sources.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Crusoe Using [Category:xxx] accomplishes (2) but not (1), while using [:Category:xxx] reverses these results. In other words, what is the best way to have an article listed in its proper category, while having the link appear right where we want it on a page? Ec

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Please help us convert nl:Wiktionary to UTF-8
by Gerard.Meijssen 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

At this moment nl:wiktionary is the fourth largest wiktionary. Many pages are waiting to be created. They cannot be as it requires UTF-8 to do so. Regularly I have been moving information from nl:wiktionary to en:wiktionary from Timwi's website all translations of languages. It would be helpfull if the nl:wiktionary were UTF-8 as the texts would remain in the original characterset and edititing them will be less difficult. Could someone _please_ help us out and convert the nl:wiktionary to UTF-8. Downtime is no problem. It can be done with 5 minutes notice. I think we have some 100 pages to be created.. Currently we have 1144 pages.. Thanks, GerardM---------------------7d40259d0--

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New install question
by Joe Block 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

I'm setting up a new mediawiki install for internal use at our company. I'm running the following versions of the software: MediaWiki: 1.2.6, PHP: 4.3.2, MySQL: 4.0.18, all on Mac OS X 10.3.4. The database is running on the same host as the site. Everything seems to be working ok, but I'm trying to change it to not say "From Octavo, the free encyclopedia." I've edited languages/Language.php and changed the fromwikipedia entry, but it hasn't changed the actual pages output when I look at pages with the browser. I've looked for a way to refresh the templates, but haven't find one. jpb -- Joe Block <jpb(a)octavodesign.com> Octavo Design & Production 791 Piedmont-Wekiwa Road, Apopka, FL 32703 v: 407.598.1050 f: 407.598.1061

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Problems with the search function at Rev. 1.2.6
by Wiki WIKI 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

Hello together, I am using MediaWiki Rev. 1.2.6 and I am facing troubles with the search function. Strings with less than 4 characters are not searchable, however I set the parameter in the DefaultSettings.php. I have set the $wgDBminWordLen = 2 and ran rebuildtextindex.php but no change. I would really appreciate an advise, how to fix the matter. Thanks in advance and best regards Michael _____________________________________________________ Powered by Diabetes-Kids Mail - www.diabetes-kids.de Bei Missbrauch unseres Webmail Services schreibt bitte an abuse(a)diabetes-kids.de

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Escaping backticks?
by Bill Clark 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

I just encountered an interesting problem. The article on Michael Moore mentions Front Row Entertainment, Fahrenheit 9/11's UAE distributor. How do I italicize "Fahrenheit 9/11" without italicizing the "s" in the possessive (since that's not properly part of the title)? ''Fahrenheit 9/11'''s does horrible things to the text. I thought maybe I could escape the backticks out, but that doesn't work (although it seems like the best solution here). Should escaping of metacharacters be added, or is there another workaround for this problem? -Bill Clark

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Slight problem with mediawiki-cvs list
by Timwi 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Hi. Who administrates the mediawiki-cvs list? Who can make configuration changes? The problem is that it sets a Reply-To header to wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org (wikiMedia with M), but Gmane has the tech mailing list registered as wikitech-l(a)wikipedia.org (wikiPedia with P). Can the Reply-To header be set to wikitech-l(a)wikipedia.org instead? Thanks, Timwi

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Timwi - legal mailing list
by Anthere 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

>P.S. you sent that mail to wikilegal-l too... Timwi, I think you do not understand. I do not send mail to wikilegal-l, I merely REPLY to a mail sent to foundation-l. And when I reply to most mails sent to foundation-l, these mails are ***automatically*** sent to wikilegal-l because wikilegal-l is one the newsgroup the *original* sender sent the mail to. I can not do anything to change the newsgroup to which they are sent. This newsgroup is gmane.org.wikimedia.legal. This newsgroup should not exist any more. It should be deleted. Now, here is what I think. The legal list was not closed properly, or the gmane system was not warned that this list did not exist any more, and now the whole system is bugged. Is it possible that the legal list is really closed ? Or that gmane is explained that the list does not exist anymore and the newsgroup gmane.org.wikimedia.legal deleted ? Or could the legal list be reopened so that the mails are retrieved and can go through again ? Any solution is fine by me. I would just like that I can use the system again and that half of my mails are not lost. Or could I be registered to the legal list, and my mails automatically authorized ? If no one can do anything for me, could I have the *password* of the legal mailing list so that I could authorized myself, or at least retrieve my mails each time they are blocked there ? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Category:Stub
by Ribamar Santarosa de Sousa 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Hey, In Category:Stub thread was suggested to make limit for displaying stubs preferenceable, and Especial:Preferences#prefsection-6 now has an option for that. But Category:Stub still shows 15694 entries.... Maybe this is not a bug; maybe this was not programmed yet... Or programmer is still awaiting for a definition in what should be done to stub category... But i think is still better limit that page than show so many entries, while a better solution isnt defined here. And forgive for saying what (i think) should be programmed instead program it, i dont have (yet) knowledgement enough in mediawiki database schema to do such modification (i'm new around)... Regards, Riba

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[Solution ?] [ 983680 ] username starting with :
by Emmanuel Engelhart 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

hi bug: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=983680&group_id=3… The Problem comes from this lines in Title.php << # Initial colon indicating main namespace if ( ":" == $t{0} ) { $r = substr( $t, 1 ); $this->mNamespace = NS_MAIN; } else { (...) } >> I removed all this code portion (not (...)), and it seems to work. I don't understand why an initial colon should indicate the mainspace... and why an article can't start with ":" ? But I'm a newcomer :) So I hope that's an acceptable solution, otherwise a message on the loginform with login rules could be appropriate ? Cordialy Emmanuel Engelhart -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ne prenez pas la vie trop au serieux : De toute facon vous n'en sortirez pas vivant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emmanuel Engelhart ICQ UIN : 53388731 TEL (+49)(0)6.22.15.88.03.31

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