I don't recall what is the current stage of consensus regarding Wikisource subpages on Wikidata, but because while playing "The Game" [1] I keep getting this kind of item (mostly from es.wikisource), I've managed a way to at least track those stuff [2]
I didn't did an exhaustive search for such items and I keep finding new, but at this momment it returns 2k of items.
[1] - https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/
[2] - http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A17152355...
As far as I know there was consensus for NOT creating such items, but maybe it is an experiment or it the bot went out of bonds? Pinging Amir, who is running Dexbot, maybe he can add more info on this?
Thanks, Micru
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com wrote:
I don't recall what is the current stage of consensus regarding Wikisource subpages on Wikidata, but because while playing "The Game" [1] I keep getting this kind of item (mostly from es.wikisource), I've managed a way to at least track those stuff [2]
I didn't did an exhaustive search for such items and I keep finding new, but at this momment it returns 2k of items.
[1] - https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/
[2] - http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A17152355...
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Hello, per talks in my talk page https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Ladsgroup/Archive_3#Import_sitelinks_from_Wikisource, My bot refrains making items for subpages in main namesapce. If you think my bot needs to make their items as well, tell me in which circumstances they can be considered notable and after that we need discuss about it in a more public place like this https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikisourceand then I'll start the bot.
Best
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:52 PM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know there was consensus for NOT creating such items, but maybe it is an experiment or it the bot went out of bonds? Pinging Amir, who is running Dexbot, maybe he can add more info on this?
Thanks, Micru
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com wrote:
I don't recall what is the current stage of consensus regarding Wikisource subpages on Wikidata, but because while playing "The Game" [1] I keep getting this kind of item (mostly from es.wikisource), I've managed a way to at least track those stuff [2]
I didn't did an exhaustive search for such items and I keep finding new, but at this momment it returns 2k of items.
[1] - https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/
[2] - http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A17152355...
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-- Etiamsi omnes, ego non
There are to be no bots to link through subpages. It is noted at [[d:Wikidata:Wikisource]], and more was bumped down the priority lists as there were more important priorities to sort.
The issues * discrepancy between how WSes handle subpages * chapters of works don't need to be linked * issues with interwiki linking, especially as it flows for versions, eg. are for a work at one wiki in the original language, exact counterparts when translated by different people into different works at different languages, and this is where works/editions/... all have particularly specificity at WD
I don't think that there is a specific problem individuals who know their wikis linking down to a work, though knowing that there may be later issues, once some of the earlier components are further determined.
If "the game" is presenting pages that it shouldn't, then it needs its rules refined for the WSes
Personally, I am more concerned with the likes of https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UnconnectedPages and more particularly
https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UnconnectedPages&pag...
(Noting that at enWS, I have inbuilt a couple of placeholders to namespace utilising [[Mediawiki:wikibase-unconnectedpages-summary]])
I try to pick of one of those authors properly each day.
Regards, Andrew
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:22:00 +0200, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know there was consensus for NOT creating such items, but
maybe
it is an experiment or it the bot went out of bonds? Pinging Amir, who is running Dexbot, maybe he can add more info on this?
Thanks, Micru
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com wrote:
I don't recall what is the current stage of consensus regarding Wikisource subpages on Wikidata, but because while playing "The Game" [1] I keep getting this kind of item (mostly from es.wikisource), I've managed a
way
to at least track those stuff [2]
I didn't did an exhaustive search for such items and I keep finding
new,
but at this momment it returns 2k of items.
[1] - https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-game/
[2] -
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=CLAIM%5B31%3A17152355...
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 2:29 AM, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
If "the game" is presenting pages that it shouldn't, then it needs its rules refined for the WSes
"The Game" was presenting such pages due to their default behaviour:
- display a page with no P31 ("instance of") values defined. The user must choose between "Person", "Not sure" or "Not a person" - If "Person" is picked, the page on Wikidata is edited and "P31: Q5" (instance of: person) is added to the page; - If "Not sure" is picked, the page is skiped; - If "Not a person" is picked, the page is skiped and removed from the internal list of pages to check
It was very common to such pages being displayed for me because I've changed my "prefer languages" to "pt, es, ca, it, gl". It was very boring and, since the real intention of "The Game" is to fulfill Wikidata with some kind of initial data, I've created a workaround to remove such pages from "The Game": setting an "instance of" thought a set of scripts [1] [2].
I was initially working on a title basis (if "The Game" displays "Book title: 098", I'll look on es.wikisource to get the main work category, generally, Categoría:Book_title), but later I've done some research on es.wikisource and found [[Categoría:Subpáginas https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Categor%C3%ADa:Subp%C3%A1ginas]] and added my instance of-workaround to the pages already created on Wikidata (luckily a very minor amount).
But even at the end of this workaround run I was still able to found some pages, mostly because their book_title-category wasn't still created on es.wikisource, or because the category wasn't on Subpáginas tree. I've managed to add my workaround also for those, but possibly there's still some pages without it at some place on Wikidata.
[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/bene/itemsbycat/ + https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist2.php
[2] - Random sample: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15893114&diff=137555158&...
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 2:29 AM, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I am more concerned with the likes of https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UnconnectedPages and more particularly
https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UnconnectedPages&pag...
(Noting that at enWS, I have inbuilt a couple of placeholders to namespace utilising [[Mediawiki:wikibase-unconnectedpages-summary]])
I try to pick of one of those authors properly each day.
Days ago I've created ~300 Author pages from en.wikisource on Wikidata, using [1].
"The Game" is really very funny to play and, unlike most online games, it results in some useful actions (defining if a page is about a person, their gender, their birth and death dates, their country of citizenship and their most relevant image/media). Perhaps requesting to it's developer to allow to set not only languages but also prefered projects to work on, will help us?
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com wrote:
"The Game" is really very funny to play and, unlike most online games, it results in some useful actions (defining if a page is about a person, their gender, their birth and death dates, their country of citizenship and their most relevant image/media). Perhaps requesting to it's developer to allow to set not only languages but also prefered projects to work on, will help us?
FIY I've already suggested it, on
https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/wikidata-game/issue/117/allow-to-set-pref...
"The Game" currently have tons of bug reports and features request. If you think that this idea will be helpfull, please "vote" on the mentioned page. It will require an account on bitbucket, but a new can be easily created with two clicks if you owns a Google account (Gmail and so on).
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