Bom, foi um comentário desnecessário e desagradável mesmo, concordo, mas
esta polêmica entre Wales e Assange infelizmente está na mídia há meses,
A intenção do autor, creio eu, não foi direcionar, provocar ou ofender, mas
informar sobre uma polêmica recente envolvendo a Wikipédia.
Também apóio o Wikileaks e a ampla divulgação de informações sem censura. A
propósito, gostaria de divulgar esta petição on-line *"Pela liberdade de
expressão e o direito à informação, contra a perseguição ao Wikileaks, ao
blog Falha de São Paulo e ao Centro de Mídia Independente - CMI."*
Se quiserem copiar o que tuitei agora, com menções às @s defendidas, fiquem
à vontade: *Pela liberdade de expressão e o direito à informação, contra a
perseguição a @Wikileaks, @falhadsaopaulo e @CMIbrasil: http://zapt.in/diA*
Haverá, por sinal, na próxima semana, mesas redondas, painéis e debates na
Campus Party sobre projetos wiki, REA, hackativismo, o projeto da lei de
acesso à informação pública, liberdade na internet, sobre o tema "Toda
informação deve ser livre?" e diversos outros assuntos pertinentes ao que
todos nós defendemos. **
Mesas e debates deverão ser gravados e disponibilizados posteriormente, mas
não sei se vai rolar streaming. Vamos todos acompanhar e torcer pelo melhor,
"Discordo daquilo que dizes, mas defenderei até a morte o teu direito de o
dizeres". - Voltaire
Em 10 de janeiro de 2011 14:51, andre luiz <andre61(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
> No link: http://blogs.estadao.com.br/link/uma-decada-colaborativa/
> Não gostei do final que criticam o Julian Assange... (algo direcionado...)
> Os meios de comunicação estão aproveitando todas as oportunidades para
> inserirem algo negativo sobre o wikileaks,
> com a clara intenção de direcionar a opinião pública contra a iniciativa de
> divulgar informações.
Olá a todos,
Desculpem abordar isto na lista da Wikimedia-br, mas alguém saberia me dizer
quem é o autor desta frase:
"*The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in practice. In theory,
it can never work.*" (The zeroeth law of Wikipedia)
Que pode ser encontrada
Estou pensando em colocá-la como epígrafe no meu relatório, mas não gostaria
de colocar o autor como 'anônimo'.
Procurei em vários lugares mas não encontrei. Por isso pergunto aqui.
Jaider Andrade Ferreira
UNESP - Universidade Estadual Paulista "Júlio de Mesquita Filho"
Faculdade de Filosofia e Ciências - Campus de Marília
Departamento: Ciência da Informação
acho que a explicacao do projeto do Liam abaixo pode ser de interesse de
outros nessa lista
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt(a)gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Br-project + GLAM: Mutirão Intersecção
To: Jessie Wild <jwild(a)wikimedia.org>
Cc: Carolina Rossini <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com>, Nevio <
Hi Jessie, thank you for passing this along.
Good to hear that there are some interesting local/regional history projects
happening in Brasil.
I'm not precisely sure how you intend to present the results of your work
but you might be interested in a pilot project that has happened here in
Australia as it might be applicable to you:
It uses MediaWiki software combined with googleMaps to create a local
history wiki map service for the South Australian town called "Mallala":
http://mallala.nowandthen.net.au/index.php?title=Main_Page This is an
example of a localwiki http://localwiki.org/ The Mallala project was
innovative not only for the combination of the technologies but also because
it combined the local knowledge of the older people in the town (in the
retirement villages) with the local high school students who could teach
them how to use the computers. The two groups met in the local library and
used the library's computers. What they did was place a digital "pin" on the
map (as you can see on the website homepage) and then they were presented
with a form where they could fill out various pieces of information in a
structured way about that place. For example, they could chose the form for
"building" and then would be given a form with appropriate questions to
describe the building in a structured way. This way the children learned
about their local history, the old people could learn about the technology
and also share their heritage.
The big difference with this and Wikipedia was:
1) it is a relatively "closed" project that has relevance to the local
people but not really to the wider world
2) it does not have the "notability" and "referencing" requirements that
Wikipedia does. In Wikipedia most of their articles would not be accepted as
their subjects are too insignificant for an encyclopedia even if they are
important to the local people (e.g. where the local supermarket was in
Perhaps that might be a methodology for publishing your work?
If you are working with existing museums/cultural organisations and you want
to integrate their content with Wikipedia specifically then there are
several ways to do this and it very much depends on the
requirements/problems/abilities of the individual institutions. If you have
the resources, and the institution is willing, I would recommend placing a
"Wikipedian in Residence" at the biggest institution(s) so they can be
"inside" the museum as my friend is doing at the moment with a museum in
America http://www.childrensmuseum.org/blog/index.php/archives/720 and I
previously did with the British Musuem in London.
I hope this helps!
-Liam / Witty lama
Peace, love & metadata
On 7 January 2011 00:39, Jessie Wild <jwild(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Liam -
> How are you? Hope all is well in the land down-under (if you are even
> down-under right now? You seem to travel so much I suppose you could be
> I wanted to introduce Nevio Carlos de Alarcao, a member of the community in
> Brazil. He is working on a project called "Mutirão Intersecção" which aims
> to work with historical societies in Brasilia. He had a few questions on
> how it related to the broader GLAM work, and so I thought I would put you in
> contact. [Note: Carolina is helping here at WMF on the broader Brazilian
> Thanks so much!
> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Br-project + GLAM: Mutirão
> Intersecção Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:18:49 -0800 From: Carolina Rossini
> <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com> <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com> To: Jessie
> Wild <jwild(a)wikimedia.org> <jwild(a)wikimedia.org>, nevio carlos de alarcão
> <nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com> <nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com>
> the msg below explains the Mutirão Intersecção, developed by Nevio and
> aimed to build and publish content into the Commons, Wikipedia-pt and
> others. It brings a regional/cultural focus.
> Could you put us in contact with the GLAM people you have mentioned when
> we met Nevio?
>> Hi everyone, my name is Nevio, I’m from Wikimedia Brazil and have
>> contributed to many projects in Brazil. It's a pleasure to meet all of you.
>> I ask your close attention since I'm not a native English speaker. So, if
>> you don't understand something from my email or if you need additional
>> clarification let me know.
>> I was born in Brasilia, the Brazil's capital and I'm going to present to
>> you the Intersection Project.
>> In 1892, a Belgian astronomer named Luis Cruls was hired by the Brazilian
>> government to lead a group of scientists to explore the central part of the
>> country – which later future capital of Brazil was built. This expedition
>> was known as the Cruls Mission.
>> Among these scientists there were public health scientists, geologists,
>> botanics, and so on. Under Cruls guiding they left Rio de Janeiro, crossing
>> Uberaba by train and, finally, arrived in Pirenopolis by horses and mules.
>> They surveyed the whole central plateau of Brazil and made several
>> astounding discoveries. As the most important accomplishment, they settle
>> four points, each one on a corners of the Federal District, where Brasilia
>> lays today.
>> My Intersection Project aims to explore the same area as the Cruls Mission
>> did and I have divided it into four quadrants bounded by the bisectors
>> Northwest-Northeast; Southeast-Northeast; Southeast- Southwest, and
>> Southwest-Northwest. This area ranges from the crossing of the roads Eixo
>> Rodoviário <http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:DF-002> and Monumental Road<http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:Eixo_Monumental>,
>> in the very center of master plan of capital<http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:_Pilot_Plan_of_Brasilia> -
>> that is the so-called Brasilia Ground Zero<http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/pt:_Marco_Zero_Brasilia>.
>> The area is also divided into rings (inner ring and the first ring).
>> In the subsection "inner ring" will be listed articles directly related
>> to DF <http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:_Distrito_Federal> and its
>> administrative areas. In the "first ring" subsection it will be listed the
>> articles related directly to the surroundings of the DF<http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT:_Micro-region_of_surrounding_the_Federal_Di…>,
>> extended to the following cities boundaries St Francisco-MG<http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:_San_Francisco_%28Minas_Gerais%29>
>> (East), Ipameri GO <http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:_Ipameri> (South), Goiás
>> Velho, GO <http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:_Goias_Velho> (west) and Alto
>> Paraíso-GO <http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en_:_Alto_Para%C3%ADso> (north).
>> The project intends to be an ethno-geographical and economical study
>> divided into five dimensions:
>> 1. Places, encompassing mapping and survey information about the
>> other dimensions such as cities, towns, squares, monuments, sights, museums,
>> 2. Topography and hydrology, encompassing the study of hills,
>> mountains, plateaus, valleys, dams, lakes, ponds, rivers, streams and
>> 3. Fauna and Flora, encompassing mammals, birds, trees and flowers.
>> 4. People, including complete biographies of famous persons and
>> interviews with ordinary people; and
>> 5. Small Businesses <http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Small_business>,
>> including the study of individual entrepreneurs, micro, small and medium
>> size firms in agriculture and industry, commerce and service sectors of
>> local economy, with emphasis on sustainable business<http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Susteinability>
>> Thank you.