Not sure this made it to the Wikimedia-L - I couldn't find it easily, at least. But the candidates for the new mandate in AffCom are under discussion now (and have been for some time already.
Interested ppl, please follow the link and comment/endorse/ask questions to them there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2...
Best, Paulo - DarwIn
On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News&... , I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many candidates considering the limited publicity the page gets in the month of December.
Next year I will try to put it on the news section of the meta home page sooner. Alessandro
Il giovedì 23 gennaio 2020, 01:14:00 CET, Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com ha scritto:
Not sure this made it to the Wikimedia-L - I couldn't find it easily, at least. But the candidates for the new mandate in AffCom are under discussion now (and have been for some time already.
Interested ppl, please follow the link and comment/endorse/ask questions to them there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2...
Best, Paulo - DarwIn _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
It should also be here in the "News" section: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee And visible elsewhere in that page, probably close to where the "voting members" list is. But it's nowhere to seen in that page, as far as I know. I already knew that selection process should be going on since December, or else I would have missed it entirely.
There's a lot to improve in AffCom concerning communication with the communities, for sure... :P
Best, Paulo
Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org escreveu no dia quinta, 23/01/2020 à(s) 00:23:
On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News&... , I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many candidates considering the limited publicity the page gets in the month of December.
Next year I will try to put it on the news section of the meta home page sooner. Alessandro
Il giovedì 23 gennaio 2020, 01:14:00 CET, Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Not sure this made it to the Wikimedia-L - I couldn't find it easily, at least. But the candidates for the new mandate in AffCom are under discussion now (and have been for some time already.
Interested ppl, please follow the link and comment/endorse/ask questions to them there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2...
Best, Paulo - DarwIn _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
They made a tweet https://twitter.com/WikimediaAffCom/status/1206831003140005888 Alex
Il giovedì 23 gennaio 2020, 01:32:40 CET, Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com ha scritto:
It should also be here in the "News" section: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_CommitteeAnd visible elsewhere in that page, probably close to where the "voting members" list is. But it's nowhere to seen in that page, as far as I know. I already knew that selection process should be going on since December, or else I would have missed it entirely. There's a lot to improve in AffCom concerning communication with the communities, for sure... :P Best,Paulo
Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org escreveu no dia quinta, 23/01/2020 à(s) 00:23:
On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News&... , I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many candidates considering the limited publicity the page gets in the month of December.
Next year I will try to put it on the news section of the meta home page sooner. Alessandro
Il giovedì 23 gennaio 2020, 01:14:00 CET, Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com ha scritto:
Not sure this made it to the Wikimedia-L - I couldn't find it easily, at least. But the candidates for the new mandate in AffCom are under discussion now (and have been for some time already.
Interested ppl, please follow the link and comment/endorse/ask questions to them there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2...
Best, Paulo - DarwIn _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
To me the main surprise is that AffCom continues to exist despite being obviously broken.
It does not fulfill its mandate, it never has done, everyone knows this, yet still the WMF is happy to have a non-functional committee.
Chris
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:23 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News&... , I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many candidates considering the limited publicity the page gets in the month of December.
Next year I will try to put it on the news section of the meta home page sooner. Alessandro
Il giovedì 23 gennaio 2020, 01:14:00 CET, Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Not sure this made it to the Wikimedia-L - I couldn't find it easily, at least. But the candidates for the new mandate in AffCom are under discussion now (and have been for some time already.
Interested ppl, please follow the link and comment/endorse/ask questions to them there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2...
Best, Paulo - DarwIn _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
And the next big surprise, to me, is that so many of their members are genuinely good people, strongly engaged with the movement. Still, that committee is something close to a complete failure (if not a complete failure). It seems clear to me that the failure of AffCom most probably is not the fault of its members. But if they do not come in the open to the community talking about the problems they face there, I don't see much that people out of WMF can do about it, besides barking at AffCom when it misbehaves.
It seems an useful body, it seems to have been an useful body when it was still ChapCom - I wonder what have happened after that that led to this sad situation - and I hope it can be fixed somehow in the near future, as we, the affiliates, desperately need that body in a functional state - at least while something else is not devised to coordinate affiliations in the Wikimedia Movement.
Best, Paulo - Darwin
Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com escreveu no dia quinta, 23/01/2020 à(s) 09:57:
To me the main surprise is that AffCom continues to exist despite being obviously broken.
It does not fulfill its mandate, it never has done, everyone knows this, yet still the WMF is happy to have a non-functional committee.
Chris
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:23 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News&...
, I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many candidates considering the limited publicity the page gets in the month of December.
Next year I will try to put it on the news section of the meta home page sooner. Alessandro
Il giovedì 23 gennaio 2020, 01:14:00 CET, Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Not sure this made it to the Wikimedia-L - I couldn't find it easily, at least. But the candidates for the new mandate in AffCom are under discussion now (and have been for some time already.
Interested ppl, please follow the link and comment/endorse/ask questions
to
them there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2...
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Perhaps the self-re-electing AffCom members can elighten us what the future of AffCom will look like in the light of the recommendations.
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 10:57, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
To me the main surprise is that AffCom continues to exist despite being obviously broken.
It does not fulfill its mandate, it never has done, everyone knows this, yet still the WMF is happy to have a non-functional committee.
Chris
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:23 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
On January the 10th I put it in the home page of meta
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/WM_News&...
, I think I did the same last year but I was considering obvious we had received some mails and I did not pay attention. I am surprised there are so many candidates considering the limited publicity the page gets in the month of December.
Next year I will try to put it on the news section of the meta home page sooner. Alessandro
Il giovedì 23 gennaio 2020, 01:14:00 CET, Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Not sure this made it to the Wikimedia-L - I couldn't find it easily, at least. But the candidates for the new mandate in AffCom are under discussion now (and have been for some time already.
Interested ppl, please follow the link and comment/endorse/ask questions
to
them there:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Candidates/December_2...
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