Quim,

Thanks for bringing this up. The subject of non-developers attending hackathons came up in at least one recent off-list conversation. I think it would be interesting to have a sampling of experienced Wikimedians present who may not be developers but who are expert end-users of MediaWiki. They might provide some valuable suggestions to those who are conceptualizing or testing design changes or new features. I thinking of the supposedly extensive research that was done on MediaViewer, and then the later discoveries that the early research was unrepresentative of the actual population of end users, resulting in much drama and considerable doubt about the wisdom of spending millions of dollars on MediaViewer in the first place. So I very much appreciate the Foundation's willingness to send people to hackathons who are not developers, but who represent important parts of the ecosystem in which development happens.

(:

Pine

Pine

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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:

A forward for technical and tech-curious people not subscribed to wikitech-l. If you have or want to join a hackathon plan for Lyon (May 23-25), we want to know. Important note: Wikimedia Hackathons are not only for developers, as good software development requires many other profiles, including insightful users.

Chapter people and other organized wikimedians, your help funding volunteer travel is welcome. Every year we are pooling more funds from more orgs, opening our hackathons to more volunteers from more places and areas of interest. Please send one volunteer or more to Lyon. More information and feedback at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88523

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:02 AM Subject: Wikimedia Hackathon travel sponsorship To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Hi, we are hoping to open registration to the Wikimedia Hackathon in Lyon next week. Those of you relying on travel sponsorship can start preparing your requests already now:

# Familiarize yourself with the goals of the hackathon: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons#The_Wikimedia_Hackathon_model

# Join or propose a demo-able project in Phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikimedia-hackathon-2015/

# Find a hackathon buddy in the Wikimedia communities or related projects out there: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lyon_Hackathon_2015/Buddies

Here you have a draft form to get an idea of what questions you will be asked: http://goo.gl/forms/MPzx8q7BBz (not a real form; data submitted will be ignored and deleted)

Your feedback about the process is welcome, especially in the related Phabricator task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88406

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