Saluton Nicolas, Le 30/11/2017 à 00:23, Nicolas VIGNERON a écrit : That's perfectly plausible that my view is fuelled with biases and misjudgements, and that's why I'm looking for feedback that might help in correcting them if needed. I prefer to expose my errors blatantly and seize opportunities to correct them rather than confine myself in my possibly misguided views. Of course, the statement that Wikidata can't be « discontinued quietly » is shocking. Surely I'm a little provocative here. But one have to put that in perspective with the fact that my previous attempts to get feedback on this were far less provocative, or at least were aiming at being as unprovocative as I could do. So I recognize you are right to point this, all the more as I made my previous more cordial demands in less visible canals. First, if people felt personally assaulted by my message, I apologize. I wasn't aware that treating a topic point by point extensively could be perceived as such a violent behaviour. I don't want to harass anyone, I want to get constructive feedback on this topic from as many people of our community that I can get. If there are better way to achieve this through documented peaceful process, I would welcome references to this kind of documentation. And if we don't have that kind of documentation, I think it would be interesting that we build one. Actually, with CC0 – if it appeared that all the data contained in Wikidata really can be published under CC0 – we could switch the whole database to whatever license we want. That was even explicitly stated as is at the start of the project that: So do I understand it correctly that during development and testing, we can can go with CC-0, and later relicense to whatever seems suitable, which is possible with CC-0?, Denny Vrandečić, https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata//2012-April/000185.html But as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't suggest for such a unilateral move. For me, just allowing a tracking of license for each item would be enough. I'm interested with links to this community discussions and clear approval of the community. I agree with that, or at least that it would be very positive for our community to have this kind of tools. It's not suggestion, it's what Wikidata is already doing with Wikipedia, despite the initial statement of Wikidata team[1] that it wouldn't do that because it's illegal : /"Alexrk2, it is true that Wikidata under CC0 would not be allowed to import content from a Share-Alike data source. Wikidata does not plan to extract content out of Wikipedia at all. Wikidata will provide data that can be reused in the Wikipedias./" – Denny Vrandečić https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#Is_CC_the_right_license_for_d… I think that the extent to which massive import without respecting license of the source  should be investigated properly by the Wikimedia legal team, or some qualified consultants. In the mid time, based on its previous practises, it's clear that promises of Wikidata team regarding respect of licenses can not be trusted. So even if they suggested that that kind of massive import won't be done, it wouldn't be enough. I agree with that. All the more, all this material we imported helped much in populating the project, but it often includes heavy biases, outdated definitions which are not marked as is, completely sexists and racists definitions that we are improving with the goals and values of our movement in mind. So it's not just expertise of contributors, but also all the work they already achieved that should be mergeable in the Wikidata solution. Only allowing CC0 will make that impossible. I'm not trying to destroy the work of any part of our community, but on the contrary I'm aiming at protect its sustainability. If my concerns are only mere delusions, that's great. But if it's not, I would feel ashamed in the future that I suspected possible avoidable bad scenario and did nothing about that. All the more, Wikidata aims at being ubiquitous under all Wikimedia projects, even if some integration are moderated through community consensus. So there is no way I might avoid it completely while continuing to contribute in Wikimedia projects. Actually I have recently learn that there are already data which are automatically inserted in Wikidata when publishing contributions on others mediawiki projects, but so far I'm not aware of what is cover exactly. All the more, I am in fact very favourable to a more ubiquitous integration of Wikidata in our ecosystem. But not with the current license conditions. I hope my answer wasn't too point by point so that it wont fall in the problems you mentioned. Amike, mathieu