I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me!
Waerth
On 13/02/07, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
Yes, every attempt at blocking a Thai IP is a PERSONAL AFFRONT to you. This is listed in the Foundation's 501(c)(3) filing with the IRS. HTH!
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 13/02/07, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
Yes, every attempt at blocking a Thai IP is a PERSONAL AFFRONT to you. This is listed in the Foundation's 501(c)(3) filing with the IRS. HTH!
If this just happened once or twice then it would be ok. But when it happens everyday how would you feel? How would you react? The same idiocy seems to be goin on on the english wikipedia. anybody wonder why there are only a few Thai editors there? Then I forgot you seem to have no feelings and not to care about other people.
Waerth
The Foundation is deliberately restrained from managing the community and content of Wikimedia projects. This separation exists for many reasons. You should raise this issue with the community of the Dutch Wikipedia.
Walter van Kalken wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me!
Waerth
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The issue has been raised over 10 times and everytime it is happening again. I want someone to toss some heads finally ot I will want all my 1000 + articles I wrote deleted as I cannot edit them anymore.
Waerth
The Foundation is deliberately restrained from managing the community and content of Wikimedia projects. This separation exists for many reasons. You should raise this issue with the community of the Dutch Wikipedia.
Walter van Kalken wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me!
Waerth
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On 2/13/07, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
The issue has been raised over 10 times and everytime it is happening again. I want someone to toss some heads finally ot I will want all my 1000 + articles I wrote deleted as I cannot edit them anymore.
Not something the foundation would generaly get invovled in. En currently soft blocks the IPs which wouls allow you to continue to edit. It would be posible for .nl to addopt a simular practice. I've talked to the .nl people on IRC but I don't know exactly which IPs need to be delt with.
For the record, this is about open- and exit proxies. See for a little wikimedia backgroundinfo too http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM:NOP . (without trying to make a point)
Effe
2007/2/13, geni geniice@gmail.com:
On 2/13/07, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
The issue has been raised over 10 times and everytime it is happening again. I want someone to toss some heads finally ot I will want all my 1000 + articles I wrote deleted as I cannot edit them anymore.
Not something the foundation would generaly get invovled in. En currently soft blocks the IPs which wouls allow you to continue to edit. It would be posible for .nl to addopt a simular practice. I've talked to the .nl people on IRC but I don't know exactly which IPs need to be delt with.
-- geni
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It is the foundation who laid this policy on the communities in 2004! See Meta. It was a rule placed upon the communities by the foundation so if it flukes you cannot all of a sudden place the responsibility with the local community.
Waerth.
The Foundation is deliberately restrained from managing the community and content of Wikimedia projects. This separation exists for many reasons. You should raise this issue with the community of the Dutch Wikipedia.
Walter van Kalken wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me!
Waerth
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200 messages for global copyright issues isn't the same that 200 messages for local blocking issues...
On 2/13/07, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
It is the foundation who laid this policy on the communities in 2004! See Meta. It was a rule placed upon the communities by the foundation so if it flukes you cannot all of a sudden place the responsibility with the local community.
Waerth.
The Foundation is deliberately restrained from managing the community and content of Wikimedia projects. This separation exists for many reasons. You should raise this issue with the community of the Dutch Wikipedia.
Walter van Kalken wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me!
Waerth
On 2/13/07, Walter van Kalken walter@vankalken.net wrote:
It is the foundation who laid this policy on the communities in 2004! See Meta. It was a rule placed upon the communities by the foundation so if it flukes you cannot all of a sudden place the responsibility with the local community.
Enough already.
*PLONK*
Walter van Kalken wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me!
The first time this happened, we fixed it by listing the True Internet proxies in the trusted XFF list. True Internet have since expanded their proxy list. A polite request to the devs to update the list would have seen this problem fixed immediately. However, Waerth is apparently not capable of polite requests, he only knows screaming and yelling, and I had no desire whatsoever to put myself in the path of his tirade. But I think this has gone on long enough. I'm going to list the extra proxies, polite request or no.
True Internet appear to have secured their proxies properly now, denying requests that come from outside their network. So adding them to the list is no longer any kind of security risk for us. In time, they may even be removed from the open proxy lists that sysops like RonaldB use as a source.
-- Tim Starling
Hoi, Thanks for being this kind. Thank you, GerardM
Tim Starling schreef:
Walter van Kalken wrote:
I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me??
The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me!
The first time this happened, we fixed it by listing the True Internet proxies in the trusted XFF list. True Internet have since expanded their proxy list. A polite request to the devs to update the list would have seen this problem fixed immediately. However, Waerth is apparently not capable of polite requests, he only knows screaming and yelling, and I had no desire whatsoever to put myself in the path of his tirade. But I think this has gone on long enough. I'm going to list the extra proxies, polite request or no.
True Internet appear to have secured their proxies properly now, denying requests that come from outside their network. So adding them to the list is no longer any kind of security risk for us. In time, they may even be removed from the open proxy lists that sysops like RonaldB use as a source.
-- Tim Starling
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