If anyone is "relying" on Wikipedia, then they have a fundamental disconnect from what we were and still are trying to do. The entire point of Wikipedia today, is to make people think, not to stop them from thinking. That is why we now, for the first time in history, have a method, if it's not actual practice in every article that's only a time and effort issue... a Method for citing deep to the actual source from which any particular piece of wisdom is taken. No other work, in the history of man, has had this ability. Wikipedia cannot be compared to any other encyclopedia, because nothing like it, has ever existed before. All of your arguments about the type of knowledge it does or does not contain as like so many pieces of tissue paper thrown against a concrete wall. And yet you cannot see that. I always tell people that Wikipedia is not the *source* for a piece of evidence. They should look at the sources cited in the article, and if anything is questionable, then question it with a fact tag. I regularly remove fact-tagged phrases and sentences, as should anyone. Saying it's not an encyclopedia, it's a "project" is mincing words. The OED was a project, the ODBN was/is a project. That doesn't mean they have no product. What it means is the project produces a body of work, that body of work is the encyclopedia called Wikipedia. The project is also called Wikipedia, because it's a unique, never-ending project to produce an encyclopedia. A situation that has also never exited before in history. I'm certainly, for one, quite happy, that those people who refuse to understand what we're trying to do, have been expelled from the work. Note carefully, I did not say they don't understand it, I said they refuse to understand it. There are plenty of (failed) projects that mimic more closely the mind-set of a person who believes that an approved final-version should be produced. Perhaps those people would be happier at a project like that. The majority of the world, has voted with their clicks. We can see the results for ourselves. W In a message dated 10/24/2010 1:18:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wikimail(a)inbox.org writes: someone's going to have to engage in the campaign of educating people on why not to rely on sources like Wikipedia.