Your thesis implies admin actions made this list unpopular. I think it is plain to see this *wasn't* the case with this list. Indeed, some opinions voiced in this thread indicate people want *more* admin action.
A.
On Aug 26, 2017 6:30 PM, "John Erling Blad" jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
1. The list gets popular 2. The list attracts people 3. The people sends emails 4. Other people reads emails with opinions 5. Other people don't want to read about other peoples opinions 6. Other people want to limit other peoples opinions 7. Admins starts to wonder how to limit emails 8. Admins starts to limit people 9. Admins makes list unpopular
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I've seen this in other forums, but note that correlation isn't causality. Still trying to throttle a forum because someone think it has to much postings (it is to popular) is dangerous. It can be to quiet… ;)
But hey, I have only a "45" on the popularity rank! [1] I have a long way to go! =D
[1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/mail-lists/wikimedia-l.html
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
Your thesis implies admin actions made this list unpopular. I think it is plain to see this *wasn't* the case with this list. Indeed, some opinions voiced in this thread indicate people want *more* admin action.
A.
On Aug 26, 2017 6:30 PM, "John Erling Blad" jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
- The list gets popular
- The list attracts people
- The people sends emails
- Other people reads emails with opinions
- Other people don't want to read about other peoples opinions
- Other people want to limit other peoples opinions
- Admins starts to wonder how to limit emails
- Admins starts to limit people
- Admins makes list unpopular
…
This has no simple solution, and it can easily turn a living forum into a dead forum. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
i do agree with john erling blad, peter southwood and others. this list is 15 years old, and has less traffic nowadays. see https://stats.wikimedia.org/mail-lists/wikimedia-l.html. years ago it had between 400 and 600 mails a month, nowadays it is approaching half of it,
imo a list admin should make a list attracting and interesting. this means i would find guidelines on how to write good emails, how often to write, how much time it takes to write one, how to communicate effectively would be something i'd love to see. why can we not revert to a positive way of dealing with mails, picking out real life examples, dissect them and make the community grow around them? how to handle new members vs old members? when to repeat what without leaving the old ones annoyed, and the new ones clueless?
instead of having a childish discussion about posting limits to be honest ...
rupert
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 11:45 PM, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
I've seen this in other forums, but note that correlation isn't causality. Still trying to throttle a forum because someone think it has to much postings (it is to popular) is dangerous. It can be to quiet… ;)
But hey, I have only a "45" on the popularity rank! [1] I have a long way to go! =D
[1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/mail-lists/wikimedia-l.html
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
Your thesis implies admin actions made this list unpopular. I think it is plain to see this *wasn't* the case with this list. Indeed, some opinions voiced in this thread indicate people want *more* admin action.
A.
On Aug 26, 2017 6:30 PM, "John Erling Blad" jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
- The list gets popular
- The list attracts people
- The people sends emails
- Other people reads emails with opinions
- Other people don't want to read about other peoples opinions
- Other people want to limit other peoples opinions
- Admins starts to wonder how to limit emails
- Admins starts to limit people
- Admins makes list unpopular
…
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