Feedback from a french contributor, named coeur (c�ur)
* he mentions the fact a user could be registered under different name on 30 wikipedias, hence vote 30 times
-> my answer. This could happen. Some people do have different names, and a tiny few could do it on purpose and could cheat. However, the risk is limited, we trust people per default not to abuse the system, and likely it would be an artifact. We could limit the risk by setting a minimum of contribution, perhaps ?
* he mentions the fact different users could have same name under different wikipedias, hence good votes would be discarded
-> my answer. This will happen, we already know several cases. Checking and discarding will not be automatic but be human powered with control. I suppose I am correct :-)
* he mentions he is *bound* to have different names on en and fr, as his name need utf8 encoding.
-> my answer. I said we trusted him to be honest here. And he should have stick to a good old name with no weird caracters ;-)
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On Sun, 16 May 2004, Anthere wrote:
Feedback from a french contributor, named coeur (c�ur)
- he mentions the fact a user could be registered
under different name on 30 wikipedias, hence vote 30 times
Yes, in theory he could. But the list of voters will be made public and checked by Danny and me, especally if the result is close. If someone is found to have cheated they could have all of their votes removed, and potentially be debarred from future votes.
Imran
Anthere wrote:
Feedback from a french contributor, named coeur (cœur)
- he mentions the fact a user could be registered
under different name on 30 wikipedias, hence vote 30 times
-> my answer. This could happen. Some people do have different names, and a tiny few could do it on purpose and could cheat. However, the risk is limited, we trust people per default not to abuse the system, and likely it would be an artifact. We could limit the risk by setting a minimum of contribution, perhaps ?
- he mentions the fact different users could have same
name under different wikipedias, hence good votes would be discarded
-> my answer. This will happen, we already know several cases. Checking and discarding will not be automatic but be human powered with control. I suppose I am correct :-)
- he mentions he is *bound* to have different names on
en and fr, as his name need utf8 encoding.
-> my answer. I said we trusted him to be honest here. And he should have stick to a good old name with no weird caracters ;-)
You can't determine identity automatically. Two people may have the same name on different wikis. Two people may share the same IP address or even the same computer. Our defences against dishonesty are as follows:
* All votes are logged publicly. The name, number of days since first edit, and number of edits are displayed to all. Who the person voted for is not displayed. * Election administrators can also see the IP address and user agent of each voter. * Election administrators can strike out votes by clicking the "strike" link * Other secret methods may be implemented in order to catch people out who think they know our defences
However it would also be useful if anyone caught cheating in the election could be banned from Wikimedia web sites for an extended period. It should be clear that this is not a game.
A demonstration of the voting system is at http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Boardvote . There are two open accounts:
* Voter -- a user who has been around for 90 days * Election administrator -- a user who may strike votes and view IP addresses
Both have no password.
-- Tim Starling
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