Hi,
I notice that the table on Meta of specially granted project rights for WMF employees has not been updated since June 2015.[1] Last year it was being amended at least a couple of times a month.
Is this down to a technical problem or was there no need to change any employee rights on Wikimedia projects over the last the last twelve weeks?
Links: 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Advanced_Permissions
Thanks, Fae
Hey Fae,
As you know that I'm responsible for the spreadsheet that your bot is copying to make that spreadsheet (since you're one of the ones who asked me to make the process more transparent) I would have really appreciated a more private email before this public one. That said, yes there have both been some changes on the private versions of the sheet that caused the public version to break as well as very few actual rights changes which means I haven't been looking at it often. Because of a back log of issues within my Trust and Safety work I haven't been able to fully find the time to fix and update everything but I actually have time set aside on my calendar on Monday to do that :).
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James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation +1 415-839-6885 x6716
On Sep 24, 2015, at 16:57, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I notice that the table on Meta of specially granted project rights for WMF employees has not been updated since June 2015.[1] Last year it was being amended at least a couple of times a month.
Is this down to a technical problem or was there no need to change any employee rights on Wikimedia projects over the last the last twelve weeks?
Links:
Thanks, Fae -- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Speaking of Trust and Safety, is there going to be a back-filled position in CA in light of Philippe's departure and Maggie's promotion?
I believe they already filled the position as they hired Karen about a week ago (after the announcement). ca. Staff and contractors page and IRC office hour.
John Lewis
On Friday, 25 September 2015, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of Trust and Safety, is there going to be a back-filled position in CA in light of Philippe's departure and Maggie's promotion? _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; ?subject=unsubscribe>
Aha, this is what I get for missing office hours. For the record: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2015-09-18
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:34 PM, John Lewis johnflewis93@gmail.com wrote:
I believe they already filled the position as they hired Karen about a week ago (after the announcement). ca. Staff and contractors page and IRC office hour.
John Lewis
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On 25 September 2015 at 05:46, James Alexander jalexander@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey Fae,
As you know that I'm responsible for the spreadsheet that your bot is copying to make that spreadsheet (since you're one of the ones who asked me to make the process more transparent) I would have really appreciated a more private email before this public one. That said, yes there have both been some changes on the private versions of the sheet that caused the public version to break as well as very few actual rights changes which means I haven't been looking at it often. Because of a back log of issues within my Trust and Safety work I haven't been able to fully find the time to fix and update everything but I actually have time set aside on my calendar on Monday to do that :).
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James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation +1 415-839-6885 x6716
Thanks for your commitment to get this up to date.
Had my question been about the performance of a named employee, I would have sent a private email out of courtesy. This was a simple non-critical question about WMF transparency, following on from an original open discussion a long time ago on this list. This makes this list the best open place to raise the question.
I feel that it is ethical to all encourage volunteers to feel free to ask questions about WMF transparency in the open. It would be a positive and ethical approach to take. Making it appear that a volunteer has done something wrong when they try to do so is not a healthy direction to go in.
Thanks, Fae
On 25 September 2015 at 08:52, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote: ...
Thanks for your commitment to get this up to date.
For anyone following the transparent and open publication of the allocation and rationales for necessary WMF staff project account rights (i.e. not community managed), the wiki table on meta was updated this week, see [1] and the recent changes at [2].
Links 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Advanced_Permissions 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=WMF_Advanced_Permissions&ty...
P.S. As Revent highlighted, the spreadsheet should say "Role" rather than "Roll". :-)
Thanks Fae
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
For anyone following the transparent and open publication of the allocation and rationales for necessary WMF staff project account rights (i.e. not community managed), the wiki table on meta was updated this week, see [1] and the recent changes at [2].
And if you are interested in more rights being community managed, please comment on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/OAuth_handover :)
ps. something seems to be wrong with the date handling for the new additions to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Advanced_Permissions
Re: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Advanced_Permissions
I notice that User:Fabrice Florin (WMF) is in the report as having staff rights, which is obviously incorrect. I have not checked other accounts, nor checked if there are employees with advanced permissions that have yet to be reported.
Could we arrange a more complete and reliable update of the published information?
Thanks in advance, Fae
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