In a message dated 11/25/2010 10:57:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, jayen466@yahoo.com writes:
It's a headache for the copyright team on en:WP because they have to figure out which came first.
First there should be a presumption that established editors (I've been in-project for seven years), do not do copyvios.
Second there should be absolutely NO grant made to *admins* to police copyvio content issues. None. Zero. Admins have no position from which to make a call that is any different from an established editor or reviewer. The creeping rights of admins are just ridiculous. Admins have dozens of "rights" that established editors do not, over content, and they shouldn't.
It's an old drum that I keep beating. Admins keep granting each other more rights, and soon all that we will have in-project will be admins. No editors at all.
All content issue rights, should be removed from admins. That's my position. All of them. Every content issue right period.
W
On 25 November 2010 19:43, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/25/2010 10:57:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, jayen466@yahoo.com writes:
It's a headache for the copyright team on en:WP because they have to figure out which came first.
First there should be a presumption that established editors (I've been in-project for seven years), do not do copyvios.
Second there should be absolutely NO grant made to *admins* to police copyvio content issues.
Aaaand there the problem. There is no effective way of drawing a line for established editors so where you want to be able to prevent non established editors from doing something your only real option you have is to draw the line at adminship.
Dear Mr. Will Johnson,
Three hurrays for the separations of powers, checks and balances and full accountability to oneself, others and the foundations of a civilized community.
You got my attention and my empathy.
Virgilio A. P. Machado
At 19:43 25-11-2010, you wrote:
In a message dated 11/25/2010 10:57:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, jayen466@yahoo.com writes:
It's a headache for the copyright team on en:WP because they have to figure out which came first.
First there should be a presumption that established editors (I've been in-project for seven years), do not do copyvios.
Second there should be absolutely NO grant made to *admins* to police copyvio content issues. None. Zero. Admins have no position from which to make a call that is any different from an established editor or reviewer. The creeping rights of admins are just ridiculous. Admins have dozens of "rights" that established editors do not, over content, and they shouldn't.
It's an old drum that I keep beating. Admins keep granting each other more rights, and soon all that we will have in-project will be admins. No editors at all.
All content issue rights, should be removed from admins. That's my position. All of them. Every content issue right period.
W
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