On Mar 8, 2011, "Andrea Zanni" zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
We certainly have many individual contacts with the OA community, including Melissa Hagemann, who is on our advisory board :) This is also an area of professional work for me. What kinds of lobbying did you have in mind?
I was just waiting the librarians to weigh in :-)
I'm really not sure of what we can do together, but I certainly was astonished when few years ago I learned about open access. We have
many
things in common, and in a certain sense we are more closer to the OA movement than the free software one. Nonetheless, the OA is mainly known by librarians, and (at least in
Italy)
few scholars and researchers. I think the Wikimedia could do his part to promote OA, and discuss
with
members of OA to build common strategies. Or at least get to know each other, there are plenty of things we can learn from one another.
It would be wonderful if we could find a way for the WMF and OA communities to more closely collaborate. Aubrey is right in that to a large extent, OA is not well known outside the library community. Given the reach of WMF, there seems that there must be a way to try to raise greater awareness of the materials which are being made available through OA.
And if there is interest in advocating on this issue, SPARC developed the Alliance for Taxpayer Access (http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/index.shtml) which represents universities, libraries, patient advocacy groups, and physicians working to promote OA.
Furthermore, another direction could be discuss about licensing: OA
has a
"weird" form of licensing scholarship, and a way to make the main OA licenses (e.g Bethesda) compatible with CC-BY or CC-BY-SA could be an
huge
step forward.
Many OA journals use CC-BY and the DOAJ promotes its use, see http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=loadTempl&templ=080423.
Melissa
Aubrey
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Melissa Hagemann MHagemann@sorosny.org wrote:
.. It would be wonderful if we could find a way for the WMF and OA communities to more closely collaborate. Aubrey is right in that to a large extent, OA is not well known outside the library community. Given the reach of WMF, there seems that there must be a way to try to raise greater awareness of the materials which are being made available through OA.
There is an ever-increasing number of Wikipedia articles about journals, and they mention open access in the infobox ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proceedings_of_the_National_Academy_of_Sciences
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AJ
And if there is interest in advocating on this issue, SPARC developed the Alliance for Taxpayer Access (http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/index.shtml) which represents universities, libraries, patient advocacy groups, and physicians working to promote OA.
I haven't heard of this before.
The website/campaign name begs a lot of questions.
"Why tax-payer access only?" "What copyright license allows for tax-payer only redistribution?"
;-)
If I understand correctly, they are promoting unrestricted access to tax-payer funded research. Do they explicitly want govt-funded research to be public domain, like US federal works are, and therefore accessible to everyone, in every country?
-- John Vandenberg
I can't speak for all my colleagues in the oa movement, as they disagree on almost every possible detail, and on almost every consideration of strategy, but I think most people there would regard "taxpayer access" both as a useful political slogan, and as a very productive strategy—a manner of proceeding through government regulation that can have a very wide and rapid effect--and that has indeed had one.
For most of those in the movement, they do want all government sponsored work to be either PD or CC:BY, and most would extent this to all published journal literature whether directly government sponsored or not. But at this point, almost nobody considers a free license like this as really a practical first policy step, and all that is actually considered necessary is read-only access. Opinions differ about whether this must be to the final published form of the material. I think everyone involved regards the 6 or 12 month delayed-access permitted by the current government mandates to be a very unfortunate compromise, but necessary in order to get anything.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:16 PM, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Melissa Hagemann MHagemann@sorosny.org wrote:
.. It would be wonderful if we could find a way for the WMF and OA communities to more closely collaborate. Aubrey is right in that to a large extent, OA is not well known outside the library community. Given the reach of WMF, there seems that there must be a way to try to raise greater awareness of the materials which are being made available through OA.
There is an ever-increasing number of Wikipedia articles about journals, and they mention open access in the infobox ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proceedings_of_the_National_Academy_of_Sciences
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AJ
And if there is interest in advocating on this issue, SPARC developed the Alliance for Taxpayer Access (http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/index.shtml) which represents universities, libraries, patient advocacy groups, and physicians working to promote OA.
I haven't heard of this before.
The website/campaign name begs a lot of questions.
"Why tax-payer access only?" "What copyright license allows for tax-payer only redistribution?"
;-)
If I understand correctly, they are promoting unrestricted access to tax-payer funded research. Do they explicitly want govt-funded research to be public domain, like US federal works are, and therefore accessible to everyone, in every country?
-- John Vandenberg
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On 8 March 2011 21:50, Melissa Hagemann MHagemann@sorosny.org wrote:
It would be wonderful if we could find a way for the WMF and OA communities to more closely collaborate. Aubrey is right in that to a large extent, OA is not well known outside the library community.
Big time. They're a natural fit for what we do.
Given the reach of WMF, there seems that there must be a way to try to raise greater awareness of the materials which are being made available through OA.
On en:wp, bring awareness in relevant WikiProjects to OA journals in their area? A programme to do that, apart from greatly bringing up the hits for the journals in question, would be highly publicisable and make OA journals into news in themselves. Everybody wins, except the commercial science publishers, and that's *just fine*.
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