Hello,
I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and tried but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting it go but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion on this list can make something happen.
First a starter, I'm not going to spin around it... I'm currently blocked on Commons, nl.wiki en Meta for privacy violation and using multible accounts. But now here it comes, when I want to talk about the privacy about the people around me no body is responding. If I messed up, and that still a big "maybe" I'm happy to go down and get a bad reputation into Google and all the other search engines but people around me should be safe.
Currently there are lots of pointers to my girlfriend on NL.Wiki, Meta and Commons. While the article and the picture was hers she had nothing to do with the complete case some people made here. As you will understand I will not call her by her name since otherwise we have yet another place where her name is listed and indexed into Google.
It all started on the Dutch Wikipedia after somebody created a article about the Dutch writer and somebody did a CheckUser and came to the conclusion that Delay and me had a common source. After that a Dutch Administrator Freaky Fries came with the news that I had a relationship with this person and that we would live on the same adres (here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpop...) While the CheckUser confirmed that the IP from the home adres is no link to the Delay account and there is no proof or relavancy what so ever it still stating on Wikipedia that we are living together. After that a OTRS agent with the name RonaldB posted a ticketnumber that can confirm that I and her have a relationship. On the Request for Deletion page on Nl.wikipedia is again a link posted to my private twitter to state that I have a relationship with her. ( http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Te_verwijderen_pagina%27s/Toegevoegd_...)
After that this whole discussion is moved by a dutch administrator to Commons where even Yesterday and today there is a whole discussion again with her name involved on multible pages ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Requ... http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Requ...) Where most recenty a dutch administrator Trijnstel is saying that I and the girl have split up (without any source and without any relevance). On my talkpage on Commons is again brought to the attention.
Between this we also have a big Meta discussion http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Abigor where on the page and talkpage the relevance to a possible girlfriend is being made.
Now I'm sure that this did break my complete reputation on Wikimedia, while I tried to defend myself and asking for information that the foundation can and have to give I still didn't recieve anything. Also a request for removal of all the names have been made by the ArbCom and nothing was heard But tell me do we want to foundation the damage a reputation of people who doesn't even edit Wikipedia but are taking on to Wikipedia to break a user? I don't care what is happening to me, but somebody please step in and start removing all those privacy violations on all those wiki's. This is going to damage her, and than the Foundation will need to take the heat? Is that what we want?
Best,
Huib
Huib Laurens wrote:
I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and tried but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting it go but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion on this list can make something happen.
I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying to parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum. Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what appears to be years of antics on your part.
If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.
If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to the point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed of your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of your actions.
You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation staff or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to be discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.
MZMcBride
Did you even read the E-mail? How should the Ombudsman commission handle this case, it are administrators copying personal information into Wikimedia Wiki's...
2011/7/18 MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com
Huib Laurens wrote:
I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and
tried
but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting it
go
but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion
on
this list can make something happen.
I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying to parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum. Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what appears to be years of antics on your part.
If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.
If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to the point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed of your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of your actions.
You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation staff or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to be discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.
MZMcBride
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Huib, the OC knows where the edit button is... I'm pretty sure they can remove all libel info if they think they should. _____ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
2011/7/19 Huib Laurens sterkebak@gmail.com
Did you even read the E-mail? How should the Ombudsman commission handle this case, it are administrators copying personal information into Wikimedia Wiki's...
2011/7/18 MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com
Huib Laurens wrote:
I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and
tried
but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting
it
go
but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion
on
this list can make something happen.
I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying to parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum. Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what
appears
to be years of antics on your part.
If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.
If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to the point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed
of
your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of your actions.
You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation staff or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to
be
discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.
MZMcBride
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-- Kind regards,
Huib Laurens WickedWay.nl
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The ombudsman commission ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission ) handles complaints about violations of privacy policy. It is not so much a committee to actually do the deletions indeed, but if you feel wrongly treated by the administrators because they refuse to execute the privacy policy, the Ombudsman commission should be the right way to go.
This list might be a proper forum if you identify that the ombudsman commission does not function at all though, but as I understand it, you have not yet explored the options there.
With kind regards,
Lodewijk
2011/7/19 Huib Laurens sterkebak@gmail.com
Did you even read the E-mail? How should the Ombudsman commission handle this case, it are administrators copying personal information into Wikimedia Wiki's...
2011/7/18 MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com
Huib Laurens wrote:
I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and
tried
but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting
it
go
but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion
on
this list can make something happen.
I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying to parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum. Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what
appears
to be years of antics on your part.
If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.
If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to the point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed
of
your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of your actions.
You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation staff or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to
be
discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.
MZMcBride
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-- Kind regards,
Huib Laurens WickedWay.nl
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On 19 July 2011 11:54, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
This list might be a proper forum if you identify that the ombudsman commission does not function at all though, but as I understand it, you have not yet explored the options there.
If the ombudsman aren't doing a good job, then I think contacting either Sue Gardner (ED of WMF) or Ting Chen (Chair of WMF board) would be more productive than a discussion on this list. Obviously, the ombudsman should be given a chance to do their job first.
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