Sanity in IT terms and practicality in regulatory terms don't always go hand in hand. Transporting an image dump on a hard drive might well be the most practical way to move that much data - though it should be encrypted at least whilst in transit. But forking doesn't sound to me a good reason to disclose deleted edits. Or for that matter account passwords. So that drive would need to be an extract of the material covered in the license.
WereSpielChequers
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Message: 9 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:06:08 -0400 From: MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 86% of german users disagree with the introduction of the personal image filter To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: CA9A2190.1422E%z@mzmcbride.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
David Gerard wrote:
On 17 September 2011 10:16, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:11 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com
wrote:
We need people to try the technical basics of a fork, i.e. taking an en:wp dump, an images dump, ..
Is there an images dump?
If there isn't, there should be.
(I'm now trying to work out how to get the images without using up all my bandwidth allowances ever.)
It's easy enough to get a VPS with unlimited bandwidth. It's a few terabytes of data, though, depending on what you're talking about. Thumbnails, current images, older versions of images, deleted images, math renderings, etc. The sanest solution probably involves mailing a hard drive to someone and then having them mail it back.
MZMcBride
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 05:04:33PM +0100, WereSpielChequers wrote:
Sanity in IT terms and practicality in regulatory terms don't always go hand in hand. Transporting an image dump on a hard drive might well be the most practical way to move that much data - though it should be encrypted at least whilst in transit.
Encrypted?
But forking doesn't sound to me a good reason to disclose deleted edits. Or for that matter account passwords. So that drive would need to be an extract of the material covered in the license.
Right, if we do this, we don't need to encrypt.
And now you know why we always kept warning people why "delete" actually really *does* mean delete. At some point in time, the deleted data will actually be lost.
If all is well, all data needed to replicate en.wikipedia should be online and downloadable. It's definitely a good idea to test that at some point!
sincerly, Kim Bruning
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