Dear all,
I want to start a new Wikiproject called Wikikids. After a starting phase it should be a Wikipedia from children for children. The following proposal I posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids an http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects#Wikikids but there seems to be no reaction. It would be great if we can discuss this at the projects discussion page at Meta.
Wikikids should be a Wikipedia-version for children aged between eight an sixteen years. After a starting phase when adults will construct the Wiki together with children it should be a Wikipedia from children for children. The idea is to have articles in a simple language without much scientific words and other stuff. The themes should be specific for children´s interests.
The idea occured in the german Wikipedia a couple of months ago. There are a lot of ideas and problems to discuss as well. But there´s no way to solve them in a theoretical way so it will be perfect to have a start and take a look what will grow in it.
The starting phase
As a new project Wikikids will have the same starting problems any other project has too. It is thought, that Wikikids will be a Wikipedia in the full control of kids between 8 and 16 years old and also the sysos of this project will be children too. At the starting phase there will be some adults to help constructing the Wiki and get a start in writing the articles, but that should be as long as there are enough children to take control. From that time on, adults will be allowed to write articles inbetween the rules of Wikikids (first of all: simple language), but they will be users like any others under the control of children administration.
Problems
There are some problems to be discussed, but I think, it will be possible to handle them. For example there should be the problems of * what is an encyclopedia, what kind of aricles should be find in an encyclopedia? * how about the copyrights of articles and pictures? * ...
Articles
A lot of articles should be interesting for children and should be found in the Wikikids. Some examples may be: * Information about school * Sports * Animals * Collecting Stamps etc. * Computer and Computergames * Games like "Magic, The Gathering", "Pokémon" ... * Musik and Bands * Television * Love (how about Sex fundamentals)
Internationality
Like all other Wikimedia projects this project should be an international linkd one. For a start, there would be a german project (there are enough people to start) an maybe an englisch one, bur it will grow like Wikipedia. Interwiki should be able to other Wikikids and Wikipedia.
Greetings from Berlin, Germany
Achim Raschka aka Necrophorus
Achim Raschka wrote:
Dear all,
I want to start a new Wikiproject called Wikikids. After a starting phase it should be a Wikipedia from children for children. The following proposal I posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids an http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects#Wikikids but there seems to be no reaction. It would be great if we can discuss this at the projects discussion page at Meta.
Wikikids should be a Wikipedia-version for children aged between eight an sixteen years. After a starting phase when adults will construct the Wiki together with children it should be a Wikipedia from children for children. The idea is to have articles in a simple language without much scientific words and other stuff. The themes should be specific for children´s interests.
As a new project Wikikids will have the same starting problems any other project has too. It is thought, that Wikikids will be a Wikipedia in the full control of kids between 8 and 16 years old and also the sysos of this project will be children too. At the starting phase there will be some adults to help constructing the Wiki and get a start in writing the articles, but that should be as long as there are enough children to take control. From that time on, adults will be allowed to write articles inbetween the rules of Wikikids (first of all: simple language), but they will be users like any others under the control of children administration.
Problems
There are some problems to be discussed, but I think, it will be possible to handle them. For example there should be the problems of
- what is an encyclopedia, what kind of aricles should be find in
an encyclopedia?
- how about the copyrights of articles and pictures?
- ...
One major problem that is not mentioned, is how do you know when someone is between 8 and 16 years old, except when they tell you. I am long past 16, but what's to prevent me from saying that I qualify. How can this be reconciled with the right to edit anonymously, which is one of the important features of a wiki.
Ec
On 3 Jan 2005, at 20:31, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Achim Raschka wrote:
Dear all,
I want to start a new Wikiproject called Wikikids. (...)
One major problem that is not mentioned, is how do you know when someone is between 8 and 16 years old, except when they tell you. I am long past 16, but what's to prevent me from saying that I qualify. How can this be reconciled with the right to edit anonymously, which is one of the important features of a wiki.
Ec
Yea. Plus, there's the danger of pedophiles happily (ab)using such a place as a grooming ground. It's bad enough that Wikipedia had to face past (or still ongoing?) onslaughts by POV crusading pedophiles seeking to sneak their sexually deviant views into the mainstream. Or am I too paranoid and pessimistic?
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