Hi, Lodewijk!

2013/6/1 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:

Hi Patricio,

thank you for your quick reply.

I checked the link you provided, and I understood that to be a message on behalf of the two board observers, not so much the outcome of a discussion of the full board. But maybe that is my mistake, and this message was indeed after discussion of the full board, made on behalf of the full board. Basically, I'm trying to understand a little better who's "we" in the various occasions.

This confuses me because I understand from the descriptions on meta [1] that the report of the ombudsperson is supposed to be presented to the (full) board together with the FDC recommendation, which suggests to me that it would be considered at the same time as well, rather than by the board observers/representatives themselves. From your answer to the first question this isn't entirely clear - I hope you can clarify.

I hope you will understand that this is not so much to frustrate the process or change the outcome (I doubt it would have an impact), but to clarify the process for the future, and clarify who exactly makes what decision and based on what. In my understanding it would be the full board (through its 31 May resolution) to decide on the way the appeal is responded to formally, and not the two board representatives.

The answer comes from the Board representatives at the FDC but obviously it reflects an ongoing discussion of the full Board. I agree with you that the framework should be clearer at this point, and we (in this case "we" means Board and staff) will work to make it more accurate.

If the appeal report was part of the considerations of the board, it would have made sense to me to refer to it in the resolution. Also it would make sense to me if there was a link tot he appeal and the report following that appeal on [2], but that is mostly a matter of convenience and having the information together of course.

Yes, you are right, and perhaps that is my fault. I thought that anyone who was following this issue would know that report in advance. Thanks for pointing that out.

Patricio

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