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Here is a second attempt at citation mark-up based upon your comments from last time. The new syntax is intentionally very footnote-like, since wiki-text has most of the visual and editing characteristics of regular print text. The mark-up is used to create "citation points" within an article to which references to evidence can then be attached. The following is the syntax for the 3 basic types of citation points:
Explicit Block: '++' ... '++fn' (fn for footnote); applies to all text between the opening '++' and the closing '++fn'
Implicit Block: '++fn' ; extends backwards, ending at the first occurrence of a preceding citation point or the beginning of the current sentence
Immediate: +fn ; applies only to the preceding word or, if next to quoted text, the entire quotation
Each citation point within an article will have a unique number associated with it- e.g. '++fn6' . An editor can explicitly assign citation point numbers themselves, or else let the software automatically generate the numbers for them.
Going back to Anthony's example from last time, let's say an editor opens article [[Roy Orbison]] and sees the following:
'''Roy Kelton Orbison''' ([[April 23]], [[1936]] – [[December 6]], [[1988]]), nicknamed "The Big O" ...
The editor is not an expert on the article's subject, but can still create stub citation points for each of the article's factual assertions:
'''Roy Kelton+fn Orbison''' (++[[April 23]] [[1936]] – [[December 6]] [[1988]]++fn), nicknamed "The Big O"+fn, ++was an influential [[United States|American]] [[singer-songwriter]] and a pioneer of [[rock and roll]]++fn, whose recording career spanned more than four decades++fn. By the mid-[[1960s]] Orbison was internationally recognized for his ++ballads of lost love++fn, rhythmically advanced melodies++fn, three-[[octave]] vocal range++fn, characteristic dark [[sunglasses]]++fn, and sometimes distinctive usage of [[falsetto]]++fn, typified in songs such as "[[Only The Lonely]]", "[[Oh, Pretty Woman]]", and "[[Crying (song)|Crying]]". In [[1989 in music|1989]], he was inducted posthumously into the [[National Academy of Popular Music/Songwriters Hall of Fame]]++fn.
Hitting the preview button, the editor sees the following:
'''Roy Kelton+fn1 Orbison''' (++[[April 23]] [[1936]] – [[December 6]] [[1988]]++fn2), nicknamed "The Big O"+fn3, ++was an influential [[United States|American]] [[singer-songwriter]] and a pioneer of [[rock and roll]]++fn4, whose recording career spanned more than four decades++fn5...
Below the wiki-text article text area on the preview page there will be input fields for every citation point/footnote within the article, with fields for such things as ISBN number/URL, page number, and cited (as opposed to paraphrased- i.e. inside the article) text. The editor can then provide values for all, some, or none of these citations before saving the article.
I will come up with some more detailed mock-ups of this design once you let me know there are no major usability issues with it. Thanks.
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This looks like a good option to consider. Can you explain how the same footnote can be cited multiple times in an article? In other words, if the software automatically marks 3 different citations as "fn1", "fn6", and "fn17", how can I have them all point to the same source? Or do I have to copy the source info for each separate footnote?
Jonathan Leybovich wrote:
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Here is a second attempt at citation mark-up based upon your comments from last time. The new syntax is intentionally very footnote-like, since wiki-text has most of the visual and editing characteristics of regular print text. The mark-up is used to create "citation points" within an article to which references to evidence can then be attached. The following is the syntax for the 3 basic types of citation points:
Explicit Block: '++' ... '++fn' (fn for footnote); applies to all text between the opening '++' and the closing '++fn'
Implicit Block: '++fn' ; extends backwards, ending at the first occurrence of a preceding citation point or the beginning of the current sentence
Immediate: +fn ; applies only to the preceding word or, if next to quoted text, the entire quotation
Each citation point within an article will have a unique number associated with it- e.g. '++fn6' . An editor can explicitly assign citation point numbers themselves, or else let the software automatically generate the numbers for them.
Going back to Anthony's example from last time, let's say an editor opens article [[Roy Orbison]] and sees the following:
'''Roy Kelton Orbison''' ([[April 23]], [[1936]] – [[December 6]], [[1988]]), nicknamed "The Big O" ...
The editor is not an expert on the article's subject, but can still create stub citation points for each of the article's factual assertions:
'''Roy Kelton+fn Orbison''' (++[[April 23]] [[1936]] – [[December 6]] [[1988]]++fn), nicknamed "The Big O"+fn, ++was an influential [[United States|American]] [[singer-songwriter]] and a pioneer of [[rock and roll]]++fn, whose recording career spanned more than four decades++fn. By the mid-[[1960s]] Orbison was internationally recognized for his ++ballads of lost love++fn, rhythmically advanced melodies++fn, three-[[octave]] vocal range++fn, characteristic dark [[sunglasses]]++fn, and sometimes distinctive usage of [[falsetto]]++fn, typified in songs such as "[[Only The Lonely]]", "[[Oh, Pretty Woman]]", and "[[Crying (song)|Crying]]". In [[1989 in music|1989]], he was inducted posthumously into the [[National Academy of Popular Music/Songwriters Hall of Fame]]++fn.
Hitting the preview button, the editor sees the following:
'''Roy Kelton+fn1 Orbison''' (++[[April 23]] [[1936]] – [[December 6]] [[1988]]++fn2), nicknamed "The Big O"+fn3, ++was an influential [[United States|American]] [[singer-songwriter]] and a pioneer of [[rock and roll]]++fn4, whose recording career spanned more than four decades++fn5...
Below the wiki-text article text area on the preview page there will be input fields for every citation point/footnote within the article, with fields for such things as ISBN number/URL, page number, and cited (as opposed to paraphrased- i.e. inside the article) text. The editor can then provide values for all, some, or none of these citations before saving the article.
I will come up with some more detailed mock-ups of this design once you let me know there are no major usability issues with it. Thanks.
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