New subject: [Wikimania-l] Setting ticket prices

23 Mar 2014

      On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:35 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.comwrote:
...
as i overrun my monthly limit of mails allowed on this list already,
and i do not want an unrelated discussion on a public mailing list,
this in private:
nathan, would you be so kind to invest a little bit more thought into
your mails? i pay bandwith for receiving your mails, and thousands of
others also. just a couple of questions you might consider answering
for yourself before contributing to a discussion about ticket prices
on wikimania:

do you edit wikipedia, and how much?
if you do not edit, why? and why you use the time to write emails?

and make others read your emails?

do you give money to wikimedia, and how much?
do you write software for wikimedia, and how much?
do you participate in conferences, meetings, and how many?
do you know accounting, and are able to calculate "the price of

attending"?

if paid persons help organizing, this means a conference in UK is

much more expensive than say in tansania?

should we host conferences then only in low wage, good connected

cities, like mumbai?

if you go, what persons you want to meet there? beggars? subsidized

people? not price sensitive people?

if you give money, would you like to attach a string, like "only for

server operations"?

did you ever think that subsidizing people who need is a government

business in many countries?

do you think i missed some angles in the above list?

i even did a little research before sending this email. if you look at
your stats, you write minimum 10-20 mails to "the movement" every
month:

http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Nathan.html
http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/_PowerPosters.html

and by writing such emails, you even earn recognition:
http://sciencepolice2010.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/the-wiki-wankers-2-nathan-...
i'd be really glad to see mails from you where i can notice that you
put some work into that mail, which helps me to learn new things, get
new angles, and progress. and i even would not care if, instead 20, i
only have to read 2 a month.
best regards and a happy sunday,
rupert.
Hi Rupert,
I've been reading and responding to the list since 2007. I edit the English
Wikipedia from time to time, under my name or anonymously, although not
nearly as much as I used to... but I remain a believer in and supporter of
the Wikimedia movement, and I try to keep current on its progress. Once in
awhile I offer my thoughts on one of the mailing lists, and I have donated
money in the past (but not since WMF revenue crested into the tens of
millions). I do attend conferences, and I am familiar with the principles
of accounting.
It is true that sometimes I get "recognition" of the type you link to,
where a banned user researched my background, discussed it on his blog,
labeled me a psychopath and suggested I be fired from my job. Along with an
old threat of a lawsuit from an Italian megamillionaire, I consider such
interactions the price of supporting Wikimedia under my real identity. Yet
though I have answered your questions, I no more need to justify how I use
my time to you than I do to the "sciencepolice" blogger. If you would
prefer not to waste bandwidth on receiving my posts, feel free to filter
them out. I won't return the favor, because telling people I disagree with
to sit down and shut up just isn't my style.
Have a great rest of the weekend yourself,
Nathan

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