From Erik Zachte:
http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/09/partipication-level-a-new-metric/
Hmm. Anyone want to change the front page of www.wikipedia.org accordingly? ;-)
- d.
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:31 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
From Erik Zachte:
http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/09/partipication-level-a-new-metric/
Hmm. Anyone want to change the front page of www.wikipedia.orgaccordingly? ;-)
- d.
well, for a short while a year or so ago (can't remember when precisely) we
also included on the main page on en.wp the number of featured articles - not just the number of articles in total. This was subsequently removed due to the large number of templates that the relevant admins had to update (maybe it would be easier to do these days, could we add it back??). Nevertheless, I would hope that - even if we don't completely change the way we calculate "top 10 wikipedias" for the wikipedia.org landing page - we do generally start to promote our participation and quality metrics as the measures of success, rather than simply size.
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com wrote:
Nevertheless, I would hope that - even if we don't completely change the way we calculate "top 10 wikipedias" for the wikipedia.org landing page - we do generally start to promote our participation and quality metrics as the measures of success, rather than simply size.
Well, currently (AFAIK) the "top 10 wikipedias" are done by page view counts (but the other wikis are listed by number of articles).
[It was changed around a year ago, I think, take a look at the options/proposals/poll/etc: * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Wikipedias * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Top_Ten_Wikipedias * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Wikipedias/poll]
Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt@...> writes:
# well, for a short while a year or so ago (can't remember when precisely) we # also included on the main page on en.wp the number of featured articles - # not just the number of articles in total. This was subsequently removed due # to the large number of templates that the relevant admins had to update # (maybe it would be easier to do these days, could we add it back??).
Should be trivial with {{PAGESINCATEGORY}}.
Might also be interesting to see views/hour/million speakers. skype: node.ue
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:31 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
From Erik Zachte:
http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/09/partipication-level-a-new-metric/
Hmm. Anyone want to change the front page of www.wikipedia.orgaccordingly? ;-)
- d.
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Hoi, When you look at the statistics for Volapuk, it is clear that having a large number of articles makes a difference. In the same way you can have perfect written articles that comply with everything that is considered standard practice on the en.wp but when it is not what people want to read, it will not make any difference.
The numbers as provided tell a part of the story and I know that Erik is the first to acknowledge this. His statistics provide a lot of insight on what is important. But at the same time his alternate proposal acknowledges that we do not know what works. I find it funny because in my perspective we can know what will work because we can know what articles are looked for in a particular language and are not found. With such numbers we can challenge people to write articles and measure their success. This is a target driven approach and the target is eye balls. With more traffic to our smallest projects we have more people that are challenged to help us with more content, we have more people that may help with improving our localisation. We stand a better chance to increase the number that Erik is fond of; the number of contributors.
We can even ask the companies who exploit search engines what people in particular countries are interested in. Really, if our objective is to grow our other projects there are many approaches and what we need to find out is what mix works best. Thanks. GerardM
2009/9/22 Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com
Might also be interesting to see views/hour/million speakers. skype: node.ue
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:31 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
From Erik Zachte:
http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/09/partipication-level-a-new-metric/
Hmm. Anyone want to change the front page of
www.wikipedia.orgaccordingly? ;-)
- d.
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