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Mike Godwin

23 Apr 2009 23 Apr '09

9:51 p.m.

David Gerard writes: They're performance artists. This is more performance. They fooled the

EFF into playing along.

This is precisely my own take on the situation. --Mike

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Thomas Dalton

23 Apr 23 Apr

9:59 p.m.

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2009/4/23 Mike Godwin <mnemonic(a)gmail.com>om>:

David Gerard writes: They're performance artists. This is more performance. They fooled the

EFF into playing along.

This is precisely my own take on the situation.

I don't disagree. I think we've unnecessarily given them more material to work with, though, which is unfortunate.

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Mike Godwin

10:10 p.m.

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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

I don't disagree. I think we've unnecessarily given them more material to work with, though, which is unfortunate.

There's always a risk associated with engaging with any kind of performance artist. These guys aren't quite at the Borat level, though. I'm not terribly troubled with the outcome in this instance -- we anticipated this as a possibility at the outset, did what we could to minimize the risk. I'm untroubled by the publication of our initial letter to Wikipedia Art -- we went over it quite a bit before sending it to them, on the assumption that at some point it would be made public. --Mike

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Michael Snow

10:11 p.m.

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Mike Godwin wrote:

David Gerard writes:

They're performance artists. This is more performance. They fooled the EFF into playing along.

This is precisely my own take on the situation.

It's basically proven by the notable lack of other art appearing on their site in the meantime. I was mildly amused that one of the "sources" on their wiki page drew a comparison between the project and Andrew Keen, which I suppose fits in with the performance art concept pretty well. --Michael Snow

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David Gerard

10:58 p.m.

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2009/4/23 Michael Snow <wikipedia(a)verizon.net>et>:

It's basically proven by the notable lack of other art appearing on their site in the meantime. I was mildly amused that one of the "sources" on their wiki page drew a comparison between the project and Andrew Keen, which I suppose fits in with the performance art concept pretty well.

Where "performance art" is "trolling for money"? - d.

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Michael Snow

11:05 p.m.

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David Gerard wrote:

2009/4/23 Michael Snow <wikipedia(a)verizon.net>et>:

It's basically proven by the notable lack of other art appearing on their site in the meantime. I was mildly amused that one of the "sources" on their wiki page drew a comparison between the project and Andrew Keen, which I suppose fits in with the performance art concept pretty well.

Where "performance art" is "trolling for money"?

Hey, artists need to make a living, too. --Michael Snow

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David Gerard

11:08 p.m.

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2009/4/24 Michael Snow <wikipedia(a)verizon.net>et>:

David Gerard wrote: > 2009/4/23 Michael Snow <wikipedia(a)verizon.net>et>:

>> It's basically proven by the notable lack of other art appearing on >> their site in the meantime. I was mildly amused that one of the >> "sources" on their wiki page drew a comparison between the project and >> Andrew Keen, which I suppose fits in with the performance art concept >> pretty well.

> Where "performance art" is "trolling for money"?

Hey, artists need to make a living, too.

I'm increasingly a proponent of day jobs for them ... - d.

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