http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
Ant
Excellent -- thank you. Reading the policy, I find:
"It is the policy of Wikimedia that personally identifiable data collected in the server logs, or through records in the database via the CheckUser feature, may be released by the system administrators or users with CheckUser access, in the following situations:"
Does this mean that personally identifiable information may be released by users with CheckUser permissions? For example, is it permissible for me to release the actual IP address of a vandal to the general public? I'm not sure, but this may not be a good thing.
I can understand using the information for IP blocks, but perhaps the release of the information should not be so broad in these cases. Or, maybe I'm tired, have failed to comprehend the policy completely, and have missed something.. :D
-N.
On 6/21/06, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
Ant
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On 6/21/06, Nathan Reed nathanreed@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent -- thank you. Reading the policy, I find:
"It is the policy of Wikimedia that personally identifiable data collected in the server logs, or through records in the database via the CheckUser feature, may be released by the system administrators or users with CheckUser access, in the following situations:"
Does this mean that personally identifiable information may be released by users with CheckUser permissions? For example, is it permissible for me to release the actual IP address of a vandal to the general public? I'm not sure, but this may not be a good thing.
I can understand using the information for IP blocks, but perhaps the release of the information should not be so broad in these cases. Or, maybe I'm tired, have failed to comprehend the policy completely, and have missed something.. :D
We do have that authority, but we rarely use it. Normally the only way we would release an IP address would be in the context of placing an IP block (or range block) of a vandal, which implicitly publicizes the IP address to user interrelationship.
Kelly
Nathan Reed wrote:
"It is the policy of Wikimedia that personally identifiable data collected in the server logs, or through records in the database via the CheckUser feature, may be released by the system administrators or users with CheckUser access, in the following situations:"
Does this mean that personally identifiable information may be released by users with CheckUser permissions? For example, is it permissible for me to release the actual IP address of a vandal to the general public? I'm not sure, but this may not be a good thing.
I can understand using the information for IP blocks, but perhaps the release of the information should not be so broad in these cases. Or, maybe I'm tired, have failed to comprehend the policy completely, and have missed something.. :D
Notice that the privacy policy is what we tell the public that we *may* do. We can and should, in practice, be as privacy conscious as we can be, and so checkusers who have any doubt about to whom they should release information, and when, and why, should check carefully with Angela, Anthere, me, brad, other checkusers, relevant arbcoms, etc.
Even if our privacy policy leaves us room to do something if we need to do it, we may choose not to do it in most cases.
--Jimbo
On 6/22/06, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Nathan Reed wrote:
"It is the policy of Wikimedia that personally identifiable data
collected
in the server logs, or through records in the database via the CheckUser feature, may be released by the system administrators or users with CheckUser access, in the following situations:"
Does this mean that personally identifiable information may be released
by
users with CheckUser permissions? For example, is it permissible for me
to
release the actual IP address of a vandal to the general public? I'm not sure, but this may not be a good thing.
I can understand using the information for IP blocks, but perhaps the release of the information should not be so broad in these cases. Or,
maybe
I'm tired, have failed to comprehend the policy completely, and have
missed
something.. :D
Notice that the privacy policy is what we tell the public that we *may* do. We can and should, in practice, be as privacy conscious as we can be, and so checkusers who have any doubt about to whom they should release information, and when, and why, should check carefully with Angela, Anthere, me, brad, other checkusers, relevant arbcoms, etc.
Even if our privacy policy leaves us room to do something if we need to do it, we may choose not to do it in most cases.
--Jimbo
To second Jimbo, part of what is really important about this is the notion of "flexible response" especially when dealing with sensitive issues, i.e. law enforcement (it happens) and emergency situations. We absolutely are committed to a minimalist policy and will endeavor to release as little as possible, whenever possible. However, we are also ensuring that if a situation arises that calls for us to do something, we can do so within the parameters of our own policy. I think it is a natural evolution and a good policy.
On 6/21/06, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
shouldn't the translations bear some kind of a disclaimer that says that only the English version is "official" and serves in court?
Just wondering.
Delphine
Am Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2006 01:23 schrieb Anthere:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
I just wanted to update the one in Wikimedia Commons but sadly I was unable to fetch the page source code from Wikimedia wiki without registration (ok I could take the one from meta but I prefer taking it from the "official" source).
So it would be rather cool if there is a way that unregistered users can grab the page code as well.
BTW (as people did mention it) although probably almost everyone knows that (and did it already), people in local wikis should not forget a disclaimer like:
--
This is a local copy of the official '''[[Wikimedia:Privacy policy|Privacy policy]]''' of the [[Wikimedia:Home|Wikimedia Foundation]]. In doubt only the official original version counts. Requests for changes can be made at the [[meta:talk:Privacy policy|discussion page in Meta]].
--
Arnomane
On 6/22/06, Daniel Arnold arnomane@gmx.de wrote:
I just wanted to update the one in Wikimedia Commons but sadly I was unable to fetch the page source code from Wikimedia wiki without registration...
You can use [[Special:Export]] to get the wikitext. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:Export/Privacy_policy
Angela
On 6/22/06, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
Ant
Thanks to the Board for the update. I strongly agree with Delphine : the translations should have a warning on them. (remember, that's why we do not have official translations of the GFDL).
Solensean.
On 6/22/06, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
Please, /* deleted for redundancy */ The same version of the above is now found on meta http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy and you are invited to translate it into your favorite language(s), and if possible, your language version will be available on July 1st - the date it will go alive.
I remarked all links to other languages than English with "outdated". Please remove it after you finish your work.
Of course, you can work not only on wiki, but offline, if preferable. Please note that 1) you are strongly recommended to have other editors review and proofread it and 2) you need to put your final version on meta, to upload it to WMF website, unless you have an account on that.
Other translation requests are available on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translation_requests
P.S. As for those translations' status, I totally second Delphine and Mathieu. In our current curcumstance, only English version can be considered "original" therefore "official and legally valid" one in my opinion.
Aphaia wrote:
On 6/22/06, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
Please, /* deleted for redundancy */ The same version of the above is now found on meta http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy and you are invited to translate it into your favorite language(s), and if possible, your language version will be available on July 1st - the date it will go alive.
I remarked all links to other languages than English with "outdated". Please remove it after you finish your work.
Not exactly, it was already translated in French yesterday ;)
Of course, you can work not only on wiki, but offline, if preferable. Please note that 1) you are strongly recommended to have other editors review and proofread it and 2) you need to put your final version on meta, to upload it to WMF website, unless you have an account on that.
Other translation requests are available on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translation_requests
P.S. As for those translations' status, I totally second Delphine and Mathieu. In our current curcumstance, only English version can be considered "original" therefore "official and legally valid" one in my opinion.
*nods*
Btw... fixing details in jd translation of the french version (tu es sur qu'on dit "Journalisation privée" ???), I just realised that the current version does not make reference to the new tool (oversight).
For now, it is no big deal, but we may have to think about adding a paragraph about that tool, once the way it works has been "permanently" fixed. Right now, it seems to early.
Ant
Jean-Denis Vauguet wrote:
Aphaia wrote:
On 6/22/06, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&oldid=14...
may be found here.
Please, spread the word that all the translations in various languages should be updated. Thanks in advance.
Please, /* deleted for redundancy */ The same version of the above is now found on meta http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy and you are invited to translate it into your favorite language(s), and if possible, your language version will be available on July 1st - the date it will go alive.
I remarked all links to other languages than English with "outdated". Please remove it after you finish your work.
Not exactly, it was already translated in French yesterday ;)
Of course, you can work not only on wiki, but offline, if preferable. Please note that 1) you are strongly recommended to have other editors review and proofread it and 2) you need to put your final version on meta, to upload it to WMF website, unless you have an account on that.
Other translation requests are available on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translation_requests
P.S. As for those translations' status, I totally second Delphine and Mathieu. In our current curcumstance, only English version can be considered "original" therefore "official and legally valid" one in my opinion.
*nods*
On 6/23/06, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
For now, it is no big deal, but we may have to think about adding a paragraph about that tool, once the way it works has been "permanently" fixed. Right now, it seems to early.
Some language (new) versions have appeared; is it okay even before July 1st? (Till the end of month, "outdated" versions are official in fact, I understand)
By the way, if we can say "the English version is one and only one official version", we need disclaimers in each language, or not?
I am not sure such disclaimers should be considered a part of policy itself, but methinks legal people would be better than me to draft and put English version* on meta served for translators. * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy
Wikimedia Italia just finished a long 4-day weekend of presentation of Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects to the thousands of visitors of "FestAmbiente", held in a park of Vicenza, in northern Italy. Wikipedians gathered from half of the country (and from the Italian-speaking area of Switzerland as well). Frieda had also a question time on Sunday afternoon with the public.
Details (in Italian only, for the moment, sorry) and photos at http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raduni/Vicenza_2006
Bye all, G. (aka Paginazero)
Gianluigi Gamba wrote:
Wikimedia Italia just finished a long 4-day weekend of presentation of Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects to the thousands of visitors of "FestAmbiente", held in a park of Vicenza, in northern Italy. Wikipedians gathered from half of the country (and from the Italian-speaking area of Switzerland as well). Frieda had also a question time on Sunday afternoon with the public.
Details (in Italian only, for the moment, sorry) and photos at http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raduni/Vicenza_2006
Bye all, G. (aka Paginazero)
It's cool !
Why don't you put labels under the pictures so that we can put names on faces ?
Ant
2006/6/26, Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com:
Why don't you put labels under the pictures so that we can put names on faces ?
Ant
Done, here http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raduni/Vicenza_2006#Foto
;-)
Ciao, Frieda ___________________________________________ http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Frieda
On 6/26/06, Gianluigi Gamba gigamb@tin.it wrote:
Wikimedia Italia just finished a long 4-day weekend of presentation of Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects to the thousands of visitors of "FestAmbiente", held in a park of Vicenza, in northern Italy.
Excellent! It's nice to see the chapter structure emerging and doing good work like this in more and more countries.
Erik
Wikimedia Italia just finished a long 4-day weekend of presentation of Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects to the thousands of visitors of "FestAmbiente", held in a park of Vicenza, in northern Italy. Wikipedians gathered from half of the country (and from the Italian-speaking area of Switzerland as well). Frieda had also a question time on Sunday afternoon with the public.
Details (in Italian only, for the moment, sorry) and photos at http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raduni/Vicenza_2006
Bye all, G. (aka Paginazero)
WooHoo! Congratulations Wikimedia Italia! This looks wonderful (and exhausting!) The pictures are especially nice; you show us some of the many things Wikimedians must do besides editing. <grin>
Many congratulations, and thank you for the link!
Amgine
WooHoo! Congratulations Wikimedia Italia! This looks wonderful (and exhausting!) The pictures are especially nice; you show us some of the many things Wikimedians must do besides editing. <grin>
Thank you all for the words of appreciation. They have certainly been exhausting days, but we also had a lot of fun. I daresay we all have the will to repeat the experience, sooner or later. :o)
Bye. G. (aka Paginazero)
I'm uploading new photos of Vicenza.
You could found them in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Legambiente_Vicenza_2006.
There is no description at moment.
Ilario
-- Messaggio originale -- From: "Gianluigi Gamba" gigamb@tin.it To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" foundation-l@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:05:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Vicenza, Italy Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@wikimedia.org
WooHoo! Congratulations Wikimedia Italia! This looks wonderful (and exhausting!) The pictures are especially nice; you show us some of the many things Wikimedians must do besides editing. <grin>
Thank you all for the words of appreciation. They have certainly been exhausting days, but we also had a lot of fun.
I daresay we all have the will to repeat the experience, sooner or later. :o)
Bye. G. (aka Paginazero)
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On 6/22/06, Mathieu Amo solensean@gmail.com wrote:
I strongly agree with Delphine : the translations should have a warning on them. (remember, that's why we do not have official translations of the GFDL).
Is a privacy policy even a legal document in the first place?
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