And again : a newer thread, prior to the discussion at the recent spc meetings, with gmaxwell's input: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/spcommittee-l/2006-August/000108.html
Rich media is increasingly part of how people communicate and create new knowledge. If we find a time to meet, perhaps we can give the OMC and related groups a reason to perk up...
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Multimedia http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Multimedia#Meetings
SJ
On 9/5/06, Erik Moeller eloquence@gmail.com wrote:
There's also the recently created Open Media Coalition: http://openmediacoalition.org/index.php/Main_Page (open/media)
But it seems to be inactive at this time. I've tried to give them a kick in the butt on their mailing list .. ;-) -- Peace & Love, Erik _______________________________________________ Spcommittee-l mailing list Spcommittee-l@mail.wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/spcommittee-l
hey guys sorry I missed the meeting on Saturday...here is an update from the bleeding_edge ;) (cross posted to openmedia)
I think we are getting in position to make a big open media push within the next few months. I have been chatting with the vlc folks in particular the plugin developer (|Quovodis|) about getting some of those more advanced features in place.( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Firefox_Ogg_Support) We focused on the progressive download status, and what’s called a window-less plug-in so that it could support html css/z-index layering features found in flash. I whipped together a javascript based css styleable playhead for the vlc plugin. A demo is available here (requires vlc-plugin): http://metavid.ucsc.edu/bleeding_edge/test3.html .. (only the first clip the non-annodex ogg functions with the playhead) Controlled buffering would obviously be helpful for low bandwidth / high latency connections.
The good thing about going with VLC (in addition to or as an alternative to our proposed integrating the libtheora into firefox is that we can support IE and all existing audio/video media types at the same time that our particular services are ogg-theora centric. VLC user base while not quite on par with wikipedia is very large so it’s already dealing with the many issues that arise in putting out audio video software across many platforms.
We may even want to have a vlc-wikipedia-annodex/cross brand ogg theroa only plugin that we can host on wikipedia for a few click browser install as an alternative to the java cortado player which has not been perfect in performance/compatibility/reliability/active development. If a flavor of the vlc plugin was hosted on wikipedia, it could be a limited version which only included non-patent-encumbered open source code. (ie only decode/encode(*) the free codecs (ogg theora, speex, flac etc) It will make the download smaller ;)
* another reason why VLC would be interesting is it already has interfaces for hooking up to live DV sources or arbitrary live or captured audio/video streams/files…it could be used to stream/transcode video from client computers to the server) for example the opt to have VLC stream to a cortado applet: :sout=#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=1024,scale=1,acodec=vorb,ab=192,channels=2}:duplicate{dst=std{access=file,mux=ogg,dst="/home/myuser/stream.ogg"},dst=std{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=localhost:1234}} :sout-all Having this javascript accessible with a clean interface could enable arbitrary people to freely archive live streams to wiki-servers… (wiki-conference sub-project, anyone? ;)
In the next few weeks I will continue development on the wiki/metavid bridges and finish up on the basic version of embed media for mediaWiki. I plan to add a metavid extension to media wiki something like [[external_embed:]], to support video and metadata transclution into wikispace. An (very) early version http://metavid.ucsc.edu/wiki_dev/phase3/index.php/Metavid_embed (msg me if you want to know how it will actually work/look)
Also I want to contact people at archive.org see what it would take to get them on board with mod-annodex. (so that arbitrary sub-selections of archive.org PD content could be transcluded into wikipedia or other projects)
I am open to dialog with others about what they feel are important short-term and long term goals. Also I would be interested in chatting with people about how they foresee multimedia integrating into the wiki systems. I am in #metavid in irc.freenode.net as we well as #mediaWiki ofcourse ;) In terms of meeting times weeknight would be better for me, as I will not be available for the next few weekends.
--michael (irc:bigmammoth)
Samuel Klein wrote:
And again : a newer thread, prior to the discussion at the recent spc meetings, with gmaxwell's input: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/spcommittee-l/2006-August/000108.html
Rich media is increasingly part of how people communicate and create new knowledge. If we find a time to meet, perhaps we can give the OMC and related groups a reason to perk up...
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Multimedia http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Multimedia#Meetings
SJ
On 9/5/06, Erik Moeller eloquence@gmail.com wrote:
There's also the recently created Open Media Coalition: http://openmediacoalition.org/index.php/Main_Page (open/media)
But it seems to be inactive at this time. I've tried to give them a kick in the butt on their mailing list .. ;-) -- Peace & Love, Erik _______________________________________________ Spcommittee-l mailing list Spcommittee-l@mail.wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/spcommittee-l
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Michael Dale wrote:
hey guys sorry I missed the meeting on Saturday...here is an update from (...) as I will not be available for the next few weekends.
Very intersting report and insights, Michael. I hope it will spur video use among local projects as soon as it's released and enabled! Thank you :)
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