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http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language_issues

If you have any further suggestions or comments, they are very welcome.

Please use either the http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues#EnglishEnglish or http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues#Portugu.C3.AAsPortuguese sections of the http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issuestalk page for debate.

Thank you all so very much.

Sincerely,

Virgilio A. P. Machado

At 23:41 24-03-2010, you wrote:

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado vam@fct.unl.pt wrote: > Mark, > > A page in the Portuguese Wikipedia could shut out > the community at large. A bilingual page would be > very hard to pull off. As far as I can tell, > non-Portuguese discussions are not welcomed there. > > I looked at Meta and saw no place for a page like > that. Could you be more specific? > > That's why I brought the question to the list: I > really don't know where a discussion like that > could take place within the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation. > > Going back to my initial posting: > > «Perhaps the question is not the creation of a > new version of Wikipedia, but to make the > Portuguese Wikipedia appealing to all readers and > writers (editors) of the Portuguese language. > There might be solutions and proposals to address > this problem which have been kept from seeing the > light of day, for untold reasons. > > It might be worthwhile to open a page where the > discussion could be centralized.» > > Like Chad pointed out, even within this > discussion, there have been posts suggesting > several helpful rules and technical approaches. > Solutions from different projects could be > brought together and would be available for all > those where they might be useful. This would make > the discussion less specific to the Portuguese > Wikipedia but more valuable to the Wikimedia > community. Even with that broader scope I don't > know where to start. If there's not already a > place like that, where would it appropriate to create one? > > Sincerely, > > Virgilio A. P. Machado > > > At 17:44 24-03-2010, you wrote: >>I think there are two options: Meta and pt.wp itself. My personal opinion is >>that it does not need to be bilingual, but that is of course up to you. >> >>On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado vam@fct.unl.ptwrote: >> >> > Thanks Chad. I know that, but what kind of page (what title)? Where? >> > Would it be alright to be bilingual? >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > >> > Virgilio A. P. Machado >> > >> > >> > At 23:25 23-03-2010, you wrote: >> > >It requires you to take initiative to start the page and try to draw >> > >others into a discussion. You don't need anyone's permission to do >> > >that. Also, I think it was (briefly) glossed over before, but there >> > >/is/ the Language Converter code in MediaWiki that could be >> > >leveraged to help some here. I don't think it's necessarily a magic >> > >bullet, but it's worth exploring. I know nothing in Portuguese, so I >> > >don't really grasp how widespread the discrepancies are, but I >> > >assume there's rules to describe them. Social solutions are also >> > >helpful, like the aforementioned American/British and Cyrillic/Latin >> > >issues mentioned earlier in the thread. A combination of social and >> > >technical solutions might just help bring some closure to this >> > >issue. -Chad >>_________________________________________ ______ >>foundation-l mailing list >>foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>Unsubsc ribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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[[Portuguese language issues]] or something. I'm not a regular metapedian, so there might be a better place--I just can't think of a *specific* place offhand. -Chad _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l