Thanks everyone, especially Mike and Leslie,
Hopefully these sort of incidents will be so rare that we won't need to work out how to use IRC and get involved there when they happen. But when they do occur a little note from IT to mailing lists like this would be helpful.
Just because we can't do anything about it, it doesn't mean we don't need something to say to a room full of newbies who've come for an editing session. As it is this combined with the "throttling feature" made for quite a bit of disruption to a session where we had ten people having an introduction to editing.
WSC
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:56:06 +0100 From: Michael Peel michael.peel@wikimedia.org.uk To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please can someone put 50p in the meter Message-ID: C147FF5A-AB31-43FD-8E5F-71C7C3DE0F83@wikimedia.org.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
From #wikimedia-tech:
"paravoid: bits was giving us trouble in Europe, we've redirected it to the US for the moment" at 4:56pm.
Thanks, Mike
Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:05:23 -0700 From: Leslie Carr lcarr@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please can someone put 50p in the meter Message-ID: <CAK= Zh6orbpMP7JShVaCZJQqh7E9MVGTe+fR9v2hZZaR7soA1Ng@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
FYI - When you notice an outage, jumping on #wikimedia-tech on freenode (IRC) is the best way of getting a hold of the people who are (probably) already working on fixing this. If you do not have irc access, wikitech-l is a better second notification.
If you are curious, this was limited to the european region and was due to some instabilities in a network upgrade.
Leslie
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
My 3G in East London has also gone down. Connected?
Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Oct 12, 2012 4:45 PM, "WereSpielChequers" <
werespielchequers@gmail.com>
wrote:
Does anyone know why Wikipedia and Commons have both gone down?
WSC
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Message: 6 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:30:43 -0400 From: Newyorkbrad newyorkbrad@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please can someone put 50p in the meter Message-ID: <CAGbz8Te7ri8_o57wokvehgLpQbca_0-F2= xTqjTyZsfZ8Ks8NQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I think WSC was trying to log onto Wikipedia Review by mistake. :)
Newyorkbrad
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
As it is this combined with the "throttling feature" made for quite a bit of disruption to a session where we had ten people having an introduction to editing.
By "throttling feature", do you mean the account creation restrictions? If so, you know there are ways around that, right? Email me offlist, so as not to clutter the list, and I'll give you a pointer.
If you mean something different, disregard :)
pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe@wikimedia.org
I evade account creation by always making them log in first...
Periodically, with a roomful of users, we'll get told that an edit has been "throttled"; no further details, I think. It seems to happen with one or at most two editors at a time out of a dozen, but it can happen to different people later on. This happened several times in a couple of weeks in the summer (I only started workshops in June), and then occasionally since - including yesterday. I originally assumed it was related to external-link additions by new users, but I've seen it for no-link sandbox edits as well.
My guess is that this entails something to do with checking for multiple edits from the same IP at once, but I don't know if this is actually the reason, or if it can be disabled/whitelisted.
(It's the one I give, though! Corrections gratefully appreciated)
- Andrew. On 13 Oct 2012 17:25, "Philippe Beaudette" philippe@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
As it is this combined with the "throttling feature" made for quite a bit of disruption to a session where we had ten people having an introduction to editing.
By "throttling feature", do you mean the account creation restrictions? If so, you know there are ways around that, right? Email me offlist, so as not to clutter the list, and I'll give you a pointer.
If you mean something different, disregard :)
pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe@wikimedia.org
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