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David Gerard

22 Dec 2013 22 Dec '13

1:35 p.m.

For your amusement: http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we? - d.

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James Forrester

22 Dec 22 Dec

4:11 p.m.

HTTPS-only for logged in users. Anons sadly still via HTTP. On Sunday, December 22, 2013, David Gerard wrote:

For your amusement: http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we? - d. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> ?subject=unsubscribe>

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geni

7:31 p.m.

On 22 December 2013 13:35, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

For your amusement: http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we? - d.

If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our remit. Beyond having an extensive article on the subject. -- geni

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Andy Mabbett

7:47 p.m.

On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our remit.

Isn't the plan to make this opt-out in the near future? Even if not, if were being blocked under misleading or inapplicable categories, we have a right (and a duty) to protest. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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James Alexander

8:38 p.m.

Watching the o2 twitter account on overdrive most of the day has been interesting. They seem to have changed a bit of the tune of the responses from simply "it's opt in parents can choose" (except to complaints about childline type responses to a mix of that and "we are reviewing the parental control opt-in service as soon as possible." Of course has shown "change" isn't impossible but isn't horribly likely. https://mobile.twitter.com/O2 Sent from my iPhone James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation +1 415-839-6885 x6716

On Dec 22, 2013, at 14:47, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote: If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our remit.

Isn't the plan to make this opt-out in the near future? Even if not, if were being blocked under misleading or inapplicable categories, we have a right (and a duty) to protest. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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David Gerard

8:51 p.m.

On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 13:35, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> For your amusement: > http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html > We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we?

If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our remit. Beyond having an extensive article on the subject.

No, that's the filter you have to explicitly opt out of. In any case, discriminatory or defamatory filter labeling is something it is in the public interest to inform on and quite possibly protest against. (Turns out that using US-sourced filter software on default settings may not be the wisest course of action for a UK-based provider.) - d.

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geni

23 Dec 23 Dec

5:07 a.m.

On 22 December 2013 20:51, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 13:35, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> For your amusement: > http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html > We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we?

If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our remit. Beyond having an extensive article on the subject.

No, that's the filter you have to explicitly opt out of.

A positive choice is required to go in either direction. The opt in opt out thing is mostly just political PR.

In any case, discriminatory or defamatory filter labeling is something it is in the public interest to inform on and quite possibly protest against.

I'm not sure that is the best way to approach the wikidata community. -- geni

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Srikanth Ramakrishnan

5:07 a.m.

I've been told that O2 has also blocked the Icelandic parliament website. Madness, methinks. Sent from the touchscreen equivalent of a Nokia 1100, pardon the sender. -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan, Treasurer. On Dec 23, 2013 2:22 AM, "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 13:35, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> For your amusement: > http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html > We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we?

If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our remit. Beyond having an extensive article on the subject.

No, that's the filter you have to explicitly opt out of. In any case, discriminatory or defamatory filter labeling is something it is in the public interest to inform on and quite possibly protest against. (Turns out that using US-sourced filter software on default settings may not be the wisest course of action for a UK-based provider.) - d. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Gerard Meijssen

9:14 a.m.

Hoi, How does this relate to Wikidata ? Thanks, GerardM On 23 December 2013 06:07, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 20:51, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 22 December 2013 13:35, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> For your amusement: > http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html > We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we?

> If people chose to opt into censorship then its a bit outside our

remit.

Beyond having an extensive article on the subject.

No, that's the filter you have to explicitly opt out of.

A positive choice is required to go in either direction. The opt in opt out thing is mostly just political PR.

In any case, discriminatory or defamatory filter labeling is something it is in the public interest to inform on and quite possibly protest against.

I'm not sure that is the best way to approach the wikidata community. -- geni _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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