Daniel Mayer wrote: So even though our non-profit status may allow us to use NC image, others who use our content for commercial purposes would need to constantly remove non-free images. And *that* makes it needlessly difficult for others to use and enjoy our work.
If I take the contents of the english Wikipedia and I want to reuse them commercially in Italy, I have to remove all fair use images. And *that* makes it needlessly difficult (?) for me to use and enjoy our work. So for me the use of fair use images goes against the spirit if not the letter of the FDL.
Also (IANAL too) GFDL allows me to create derivative works, I don't know if I can take an image that is fair use and modify it. I think it's not possible and if this is the case, this as well goes against the spirit if not the letter of the FDL.
And to state it clearly once again, I'm against fair use *AND * NC's.
But if the point is that only US subjects should not have the problem of removing the bits of content that are not in accord with thier laws, please state it clearly.
Roberto (Snowdog)
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Answer: No, You can't modify a "fair use" image.
Senpai
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Daniel Mayer wrote: So even though our non-profit status may allow us to use NC image, others who use our content for commercial purposes would need to constantly remove non-free images. And *that* makes it needlessly difficult for others to use and enjoy our work.
If I take the contents of the english Wikipedia and I want to reuse them commercially in Italy, I have to remove all fair use images. And *that* makes it needlessly difficult (?) for me to use and enjoy our work. So for me the use of fair use images goes against the spirit if not the letter of the FDL.
Also (IANAL too) GFDL allows me to create derivative works, I don't know if I can take an image that is fair use and modify it. I think it's not possible and if this is the case, this as well goes against the spirit if not the letter of the FDL.
And to state it clearly once again, I'm against fair use *AND * NC's.
But if the point is that only US subjects should not have the problem of removing the bits of content that are not in accord with thier laws, please state it clearly.
Roberto (Snowdog)
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senpai wrote:
No, You can't modify a "fair use" image.
Disagree. U. S. rulings have allowed for parody. You may wish to crop an image to zoom into a detail that is important to your article. You may want to do an overlay to show the similarities between two people. You may want to do colour separations. I could probably find other legitimate modifications.
Modifications have more to do with moral rights than copyrights in the strict sense. That aspect of the law is not particularly developed in the U. S.
Ec
Do u think that this kind of modification make free the fair use images ?
Senpai
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senpai wrote:
No, You can't modify a "fair use" image.
Disagree. U. S. rulings have allowed for parody. You may wish to crop an image to zoom into a detail that is important to your article. You may want to do an overlay to show the similarities between two people. You may want to do colour separations. I could probably find other legitimate modifications.
Modifications have more to do with moral rights than copyrights in the strict sense. That aspect of the law is not particularly developed in the U. S.
Ec
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Such modification does not make it free. It remains a modified work employing fair use.
senpai wrote:
Do u think that this kind of modification make free the fair use images ?
Senpai
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Saintonge" saintonge@telus.net To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Diversity and NC images - Board meet
senpai wrote:
No, You can't modify a "fair use" image.
Disagree. U. S. rulings have allowed for parody. You may wish to crop an image to zoom into a detail that is important to your article. You may want to do an overlay to show the similarities between two people. You may want to do colour separations. I could probably find other legitimate modifications.
Modifications have more to do with moral rights than copyrights in the strict sense. That aspect of the law is not particularly developed in the U. S.
Ec
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