Hoi, I do not care one whit who you are or why you think you are provoked. What I care about is arguments that are put cleanly without much fanfare. When you think that you have permission to be rude threatening or abusive under any circumstances, you are wrong. It degrades any point you have and it abuses the other people on the list.
You may not think much of our list administrator. Your choice as long as it is private, you are entitled to that opinion.
When you choose to be abusive, it makes you unpalatable and I do not really care for your point of view because it got tainted. So make up your mind what is important, your ego or your argument. Thanks, GerardM
On 8 January 2015 at 22:59, mcc99 mcc99@hotmail.com wrote:
Well "Austin Hair",
You display a profound lack of understanding of ME, it seems. I am polite until others are rude, become threatening, even a thinly veiled way, so allow me to tell you first that I do not care a whit what YOU think of me or my opinion on this or any other topic. And if others object to my opinion on a topic, sensitive or not, they can make their case and it will stand or not on its merits.
But if you think you or anyone else can intimidate me into staying quiet when I see something fundamentally wrong happening, guess again.
Now to put it politely, at least to start with:
Go climb a tree.
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:30 PM, mcc99 mcc99@hotmail.com wrote:
But in future, I think I'll sign in more often, esp. now that half the
WikiGods have my uid on an alert trigger now. :)
I think the question is only being asked because you're displaying a profound lack of understanding of how Wikipedia and Wikimedia work, not only in your recent proposal, but in commenting on this sensitive topic.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, and you've been polite in expressing it—that goes a long way, at least with me. So please don't think that it's a matter of demanding a certain number of WikiCred points before the WikiGods will let you sit at the WikiGrownups table, or anything like that. Just understand that this issue has a lot of people on edge, and at this rate it won't be long before "politely ignored" becomes less ignored and less polite.
Austin
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These are important points, and well said. Thank you.
-I
On 10/01/15 07:41, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, I do not care one whit who you are or why you think you are provoked. What I care about is arguments that are put cleanly without much fanfare. When you think that you have permission to be rude threatening or abusive under any circumstances, you are wrong. It degrades any point you have and it abuses the other people on the list.
You may not think much of our list administrator. Your choice as long as it is private, you are entitled to that opinion.
When you choose to be abusive, it makes you unpalatable and I do not really care for your point of view because it got tainted. So make up your mind what is important, your ego or your argument. Thanks, GerardM
On 8 January 2015 at 22:59, mcc99 mcc99@hotmail.com wrote:
Well "Austin Hair",
You display a profound lack of understanding of ME, it seems. I am polite until others are rude, become threatening, even a thinly veiled way, so allow me to tell you first that I do not care a whit what YOU think of me or my opinion on this or any other topic. And if others object to my opinion on a topic, sensitive or not, they can make their case and it will stand or not on its merits.
But if you think you or anyone else can intimidate me into staying quiet when I see something fundamentally wrong happening, guess again.
Now to put it politely, at least to start with:
Go climb a tree.
-------- Original message -------- From: wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org Date:01/08/2015 11:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Subject: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 130, Issue 29
Message: 1 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 17:01:08 +0100 From: Austin Hair adhair@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month gender gap Message-ID: < CA+bW_FVVBcn6BM6dutAwbJ884A1WMFBUMCTbnQOjvubK5r046w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:30 PM, mcc99 mcc99@hotmail.com wrote:
But in future, I think I'll sign in more often, esp. now that half the
WikiGods have my uid on an alert trigger now. :)
I think the question is only being asked because you're displaying a profound lack of understanding of how Wikipedia and Wikimedia work, not only in your recent proposal, but in commenting on this sensitive topic.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, and you've been polite in expressing it—that goes a long way, at least with me. So please don't think that it's a matter of demanding a certain number of WikiCred points before the WikiGods will let you sit at the WikiGrownups table, or anything like that. Just understand that this issue has a lot of people on edge, and at this rate it won't be long before "politely ignored" becomes less ignored and less polite.
Austin
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