I'm starting a thread with the correct title, so that everyone knows that we're discussing whether I should be banned and for what reasons.
,Wil
Wil I ask this as a serious, non-snarky question; have you stepped back for a second and thought about your actions here.
Some responses have been a bit tough. But I don't think you've handled yourself at all well.
Imagine, for example, I came into your place of work and started asking questions. Questions which at best are naive or worst leading. What if I immediately plunged into one of the most controversial topics of discussion, in a somewhat aloof tone, and revealed that I'd been talking to a news outlet who'd just run an in depth expose on your bosses sex life. What if my comments exposed that my research consisted entirely of what I had been fed from that outlet.
What I'm saying is; this is a community which is established and often thoughful. For a web community it is quite welcoming to thoughtful new contributions. But unlike many web communities it's tolerance for bullshit is extremely low.
We respond positively to things like reasoned arguments, or great contributions. We respond badly to oddly crafted explorations. Your opening email reads, and believe me we have years of them for training, like the typical flamebait.
Remember as a community we face constant disruption and vandalism: and so our tools to deal with that, and move back onto content, are abrupt and harsh.
As a regular and vocal critic myself, I think you've crossed the line in these threads into disruption.
If you want to understand WM culture then the one and only way to do so is to become a member of the community. It's not simple or easy, it takes work to produce quality contributions.
Looking from the outside will only get you so far. I hope you'll delve in and find not only the bad, but the excellent as well.
Take that as you will. I hope it's useful.
Unfortunately your comments about Kohs mean I find your judgement extremely lacking. I hope you'll be able to regain the respect youve so quickly lost here.
Tom On 29 May 2014 00:25, "Wil Sinclair" wllm@wllm.com wrote:
I'm starting a thread with the correct title, so that everyone knows that we're discussing whether I should be banned and for what reasons.
,Wil
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It seems to me that the community is going out of its way to accomodate Wil in the hope that we can salvage the life partner of our new ED as a productive contributor. --scott
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
I'm starting a thread with the correct title, so that everyone knows that we're discussing whether I should be banned and for what reasons.
Like Sam said in another thread, I doubt you would be blocked on this list, and there would be an uproar if it happened. Put on moderation, maybe, if necessary to slow you down, but the month is nearly over... ;-)
And the 30 posts soft limit is very soft at times (for certain people?? :P), and I hope the list admins will be lenient here in these circumstances. See
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/255082?do=post_view_th...
I've asked "When did the post limit start?" at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia-l#Post_limit
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:05 AM, C. Scott Ananian cananian@wikimedia.org wrote:
It seems to me that the community is going out of its way to accomodate Wil in the hope that we can salvage the life partner of our new ED as a productive contributor.
I dont know about 'salvage', but I agree with your point ;-)
He has a lot of energy, and is interested in the hard questions. A great 'meta' contributor in the making, I hope.
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