hi,
now we are approaching 400 days of lila tretikov at the helm of the wikimedia foundation, and 60 million us dollars spent, i was not able to sign a simple wikipedia page via the mobile app. i think something is going seriously wrong here :(
what was the use case? the european union wants to harmonize the freedom of panorama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama#European_Union. the german wikipedia had a wikipedia banner to sign a petition, and also wrote mails about it. which i thought is a nice idea. i am reading mails on the phone following links to wikipedia, i tried it this time as well, and i was not able to accomplish the most simple task of contribution - to add my signature at the bottom of a list. earlier in the year i already tried to add a link and i could not do it - but i admit that is a much more difficult task in the mobile app.
the german links: * sign here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_... * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Initiative_f%C3%BCr_die_Panoramafrei...
just as a side note, up to know this page collected close to 4'000 signatures.
best, rupert
Hi Rupert,
I was the product owner https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Team/Roles_and_responsibilities#Product_owner for the Wikipedia app from before it launch until April last year, so I can answer your question. Editing is supported on the native mobile apps, and has been since their launch last year (June 2014 for Android, July 2014 for iOS). The reason it did not work for you in this case is because of a formatting error in the wikitext of that specific page. I fixed the problem in the wikitext https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_Europ%C3%A4ischen_Parlaments_zur_Erhaltung_der_Panoramafreiheit&diff=143559219&oldid=143559146, and successfully added my signature as a test https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_Europ%C3%A4ischen_Parlaments_zur_Erhaltung_der_Panoramafreiheit&diff=prev&oldid=143559243 (which I then reverted since I don't want to interfere in the discussion). You should be able to add your signature now. (I skipped over the exact details of what the issue was, let me know if you want hear them)
As an aside, I would note that the way you communicated this question was suboptimal and unnecessarily combative. The title of your email is provocative, and makes unnecessary, exaggerated, and incorrect implications. It would be nice if you avoided doing this in the future, as people will be more willing to involve themselves in a discussion if they do not feel like they are being attacked.
Thanks, Dan
On 28 June 2015 at 03:44, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
now we are approaching 400 days of lila tretikov at the helm of the wikimedia foundation, and 60 million us dollars spent, i was not able to sign a simple wikipedia page via the mobile app. i think something is going seriously wrong here :(
what was the use case? the european union wants to harmonize the freedom of panorama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama#European_Union. the german wikipedia had a wikipedia banner to sign a petition, and also wrote mails about it. which i thought is a nice idea. i am reading mails on the phone following links to wikipedia, i tried it this time as well, and i was not able to accomplish the most simple task of contribution - to add my signature at the bottom of a list. earlier in the year i already tried to add a link and i could not do it - but i admit that is a much more difficult task in the mobile app.
the german links:
- sign here:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_...
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Initiative_f%C3%BCr_die_Panoramafrei...
just as a side note, up to know this page collected close to 4'000 signatures.
best, rupert
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On 28 June 2015 at 12:44, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
I was the product owner https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Team/Roles_and_responsibilities#Product_owner for the Wikipedia app from before it launch until April last year,
Correction: this was meant to read "until April *this* year".
Dan
hi dan,
many thanks for the quick reaction! i need to make a correction as well, i was redirected to https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_de... which was opened with the android chrome browser, so not the wikipedia app. i did not find any support in the mobile skin to do basic edits, e.g. add a link with reference, and sign. it is the first contact function for many people. i am sorry that this made me explode as it is still not fixed despite it was hinted from numerous persons multiple times, for quite some time.
i tried the app as well now, but i did not find any application support for "signature" or "link" ? so i have to know the syntax and type it?
best, rupert
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Rupert,
I was the product owner https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Team/Roles_and_responsibilities#Product_owner for the Wikipedia app from before it launch until April last year, so I can answer your question. Editing is supported on the native mobile apps, and has been since their launch last year (June 2014 for Android, July 2014 for iOS). The reason it did not work for you in this case is because of a formatting error in the wikitext of that specific page. I fixed the problem in the wikitext https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_Europ%C3%A4ischen_Parlaments_zur_Erhaltung_der_Panoramafreiheit&diff=143559219&oldid=143559146, and successfully added my signature as a test https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_Europ%C3%A4ischen_Parlaments_zur_Erhaltung_der_Panoramafreiheit&diff=prev&oldid=143559243 (which I then reverted since I don't want to interfere in the discussion). You should be able to add your signature now. (I skipped over the exact details of what the issue was, let me know if you want hear them)
As an aside, I would note that the way you communicated this question was suboptimal and unnecessarily combative. The title of your email is provocative, and makes unnecessary, exaggerated, and incorrect implications. It would be nice if you avoided doing this in the future, as people will be more willing to involve themselves in a discussion if they do not feel like they are being attacked.
Thanks, Dan
On 28 June 2015 at 03:44, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
now we are approaching 400 days of lila tretikov at the helm of the wikimedia foundation, and 60 million us dollars spent, i was not able to sign a simple wikipedia page via the mobile app. i think something is going seriously wrong here :(
what was the use case? the european union wants to harmonize the freedom of panorama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama#European_Union. the german wikipedia had a wikipedia banner to sign a petition, and also wrote mails about it. which i thought is a nice idea. i am reading mails on the phone following links to wikipedia, i tried it this time as well, and i was not able to accomplish the most simple task of contribution - to add my signature at the bottom of a list. earlier in the year i already tried to add a link and i could not do it - but i admit that is a much more difficult task in the mobile app.
the german links:
- sign here:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_...
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Initiative_f%C3%BCr_die_Panoramafrei...
just as a side note, up to know this page collected close to 4'000 signatures.
best, rupert
i created two tasks in phabricator for it, hope that is ok like this: * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106266 * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106267
i did not find the correct project though?
best, rupert
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 11:02 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
hi dan,
many thanks for the quick reaction! i need to make a correction as well, i was redirected to https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_de... which was opened with the android chrome browser, so not the wikipedia app. i did not find any support in the mobile skin to do basic edits, e.g. add a link with reference, and sign. it is the first contact function for many people. i am sorry that this made me explode as it is still not fixed despite it was hinted from numerous persons multiple times, for quite some time.
i tried the app as well now, but i did not find any application support for "signature" or "link" ? so i have to know the syntax and type it?
best, rupert
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Rupert,
I was the product owner https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Team/Roles_and_responsibilities#Product_owner for the Wikipedia app from before it launch until April last year, so I can answer your question. Editing is supported on the native mobile apps, and has been since their launch last year (June 2014 for Android, July 2014 for iOS). The reason it did not work for you in this case is because of a formatting error in the wikitext of that specific page. I fixed the problem in the wikitext https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_Europ%C3%A4ischen_Parlaments_zur_Erhaltung_der_Panoramafreiheit&diff=143559219&oldid=143559146, and successfully added my signature as a test https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_Europ%C3%A4ischen_Parlaments_zur_Erhaltung_der_Panoramafreiheit&diff=prev&oldid=143559243 (which I then reverted since I don't want to interfere in the discussion). You should be able to add your signature now. (I skipped over the exact details of what the issue was, let me know if you want hear them)
As an aside, I would note that the way you communicated this question was suboptimal and unnecessarily combative. The title of your email is provocative, and makes unnecessary, exaggerated, and incorrect implications. It would be nice if you avoided doing this in the future, as people will be more willing to involve themselves in a discussion if they do not feel like they are being attacked.
Thanks, Dan
On 28 June 2015 at 03:44, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
now we are approaching 400 days of lila tretikov at the helm of the wikimedia foundation, and 60 million us dollars spent, i was not able to sign a simple wikipedia page via the mobile app. i think something is going seriously wrong here :(
what was the use case? the european union wants to harmonize the freedom of panorama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama#European_Union. the german wikipedia had a wikipedia banner to sign a petition, and also wrote mails about it. which i thought is a nice idea. i am reading mails on the phone following links to wikipedia, i tried it this time as well, and i was not able to accomplish the most simple task of contribution - to add my signature at the bottom of a list. earlier in the year i already tried to add a link and i could not do it - but i admit that is a much more difficult task in the mobile app.
the german links:
- sign here:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Offener_Brief_an_die_Mitglieder_des_...
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Initiative_f%C3%BCr_die_Panoramafrei...
just as a side note, up to know this page collected close to 4'000 signatures.
best, rupert
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