A study claiming that YouTube costs them ONE BEEEELION DOLLARS a year, by having DMCA safe harbours!
writeup: https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-helps-youtube-avoid-up-to-1bn-in-royalties-per... study: http://www.phoenix-center.org/PolicyBulletin/PCPB41Final.pdf
The conceit here is the music industry claiming that YouTube should pay them money that they literally know YouTube isn't taking in, on an assured basis as they do with Spotify.
They have been smart enough to explicitly name Wikipedia as the sort of organisation they don't want to hurt. Wikimedians, of course, know better than to trust the IP industry with anything. This "study" is getting hyped in the industry press today; if it comes to anything, it *may* be worth Wikimedia commenting.
- d.
Youtube does pay the music industry though? From what I understand torrents were doing in the music on CD industry and that Youtube saved them in part as they get a cut of the advertising on the videos.
J
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:26 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
A study claiming that YouTube costs them ONE BEEEELION DOLLARS a year, by having DMCA safe harbours!
writeup: https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-helps-youtube-avoid-up-to-1bn- in-royalties-per-year-study-claims-170330/ study: http://www.phoenix-center.org/PolicyBulletin/PCPB41Final.pdf
The conceit here is the music industry claiming that YouTube should pay them money that they literally know YouTube isn't taking in, on an assured basis as they do with Spotify.
They have been smart enough to explicitly name Wikipedia as the sort of organisation they don't want to hurt. Wikimedians, of course, know better than to trust the IP industry with anything. This "study" is getting hyped in the industry press today; if it comes to anything, it *may* be worth Wikimedia commenting.
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They pay them quite a lot. Youtube allows rights holders to put ads on content that's theirs and collect the money from them instead of having them taken down, if they want to.
This is nothing more than another swipe at fair use. Automated systems cannot tell the difference between a full on illegal copy and a portion of something used for criticism and commentary.
Todd
Todd
On Mar 30, 2017 5:50 PM, "James Heilman" jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Youtube does pay the music industry though? From what I understand torrents were doing in the music on CD industry and that Youtube saved them in part as they get a cut of the advertising on the videos.
J
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:26 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
A study claiming that YouTube costs them ONE BEEEELION DOLLARS a year, by having DMCA safe harbours!
writeup: https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-helps-youtube-avoid-up-to-1bn- in-royalties-per-year-study-claims-170330/ study: http://www.phoenix-center.org/PolicyBulletin/PCPB41Final.pdf
The conceit here is the music industry claiming that YouTube should pay them money that they literally know YouTube isn't taking in, on an assured basis as they do with Spotify.
They have been smart enough to explicitly name Wikipedia as the sort of organisation they don't want to hurt. Wikimedians, of course, know better than to trust the IP industry with anything. This "study" is getting hyped in the industry press today; if it comes to anything, it *may* be worth Wikimedia commenting.
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