Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general. The program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating three days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants. As it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do not come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this on Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to get a visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"? Are you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online Wikimedia activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those activities are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by affiliates.
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"? Are you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online Wikimedia activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those activities are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by affiliates.
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Dear Cornelius,
Could you please elaborate re the decision to not include learning and capacity building? Events where Wikimedians from around the world gather together do not happen every day, and especially as there will be representatives from most affiliates, this is a great opportunity to share knowledge and train people so they can go back to their local communities and spread that knowledge. Besides Wikimania, which not everyone can attend, this is the other biggest event we have to do just that. Shouldn't we seize this opportunity, considering that it takes so much time, effort and money to bring everyone together?
Thanks for shedding some light on this issue.
Best, Shani.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"?
Are
you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online Wikimedia activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those activities are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by affiliates.
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Dear Shani,
sure, I'm happy to explain my rationale. The decision has a longer rationale, based on our experiences from organizing the last Wikimedia Conferences with its usual format (as in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018). Early this year, we have published a three year report (2015–2017) on the last Wikimedia Conferences.[1] As stated in this report, we came to the conclusion (among others[2]) that the format of having everything in one place (conversations about the future of the movement/Movement Strategy, learning/capacity-building, peer-to-peer exchange/networking, etc.) has its limits and doesn't work anymore.
The Movement has grown a lot over the last years. That means also that the diversity among the conference participants became bigger and bigger, and it became increasingly hard to create a program based on the needs, wishes and experiences of the participants that satisfied all of them. Additionally, we think that learning on a global has its strong limits, as the knowledge shared is only applicable in really specific circumstances or is too general. Learning on regional, national, local or thematic events has proven to be more successful. The recent Community Engagement Insights survey gave a similar indication.[3]
With a stronger focus of this event (and a complete change in this set-up: It's the platform for the Movement Strategy process, and not the other way around), there comes also a stronger support (and increase) of regional and thematic events, as agreed with the Wikimedia Foundation. I have talked with different organizers of regional events that agreed to focus stronger on capacity-building at their events.
Thus, this decision does not come out of the blue. We have shared this report, I have shared this at other events (Wikimedia Conference 2018[4], Wikimania 2018[5]), it was shared previously on this mailing list, I have talked with most speakers of the Wikimedia Conference 2018, the Wikimedia Chapter EDs, the organizers of the upcoming regional conferences. Apart from some particular criticism, the feedback for this decision was basically unanimously positive.
I hope that helps. Happy to answer any questions regarding this.
Best regards, Cornelius
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference/2015%E2%80%932017_Repor... [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference/2015%E2%80%932017_Repor... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference/2015%E2%80%932017_Report/Conclusions [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_Insights/2018_Report#Co... [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Reading_material#F... [5] https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program/We_learned_one_thing_from_o...
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 23:30, Shani Evenstein shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Cornelius,
Could you please elaborate re the decision to not include learning and capacity building? Events where Wikimedians from around the world gather together do not happen every day, and especially as there will be representatives from most affiliates, this is a great opportunity to share knowledge and train people so they can go back to their local communities and spread that knowledge. Besides Wikimania, which not everyone can attend, this is the other biggest event we have to do just that. Shouldn't we seize this opportunity, considering that it takes so much time, effort and money to bring everyone together?
Thanks for shedding some light on this issue.
Best, Shani.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"?
Are
you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online
Wikimedia
activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those
activities
are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by
affiliates.
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Hi everybody,
Just a quick message to tell that, having experimented the former format of the WMCON, I fully agree with Cornelius vision of the Summit. Though I really loved the old format, I do agree it will be much more productive this new way, and the funds are much better used on such a more focused event. Also, the kind of people that work the strategy in the affiliates is not necessarily (and often is not) the same that profits most from learning and "capacity building" events.
Abraço,
Paulo
Cornelius Kibelka cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia quarta, 26/09/2018 à(s) 10:05:
Dear Shani,
sure, I'm happy to explain my rationale. The decision has a longer rationale, based on our experiences from organizing the last Wikimedia Conferences with its usual format (as in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018). Early this year, we have published a three year report (2015–2017) on the last Wikimedia Conferences.[1] As stated in this report, we came to the conclusion (among others[2]) that the format of having everything in one place (conversations about the future of the movement/Movement Strategy, learning/capacity-building, peer-to-peer exchange/networking, etc.) has its limits and doesn't work anymore.
The Movement has grown a lot over the last years. That means also that the diversity among the conference participants became bigger and bigger, and it became increasingly hard to create a program based on the needs, wishes and experiences of the participants that satisfied all of them. Additionally, we think that learning on a global has its strong limits, as the knowledge shared is only applicable in really specific circumstances or is too general. Learning on regional, national, local or thematic events has proven to be more successful. The recent Community Engagement Insights survey gave a similar indication.[3]
With a stronger focus of this event (and a complete change in this set-up: It's the platform for the Movement Strategy process, and not the other way around), there comes also a stronger support (and increase) of regional and thematic events, as agreed with the Wikimedia Foundation. I have talked with different organizers of regional events that agreed to focus stronger on capacity-building at their events.
Thus, this decision does not come out of the blue. We have shared this report, I have shared this at other events (Wikimedia Conference 2018[4], Wikimania 2018[5]), it was shared previously on this mailing list, I have talked with most speakers of the Wikimedia Conference 2018, the Wikimedia Chapter EDs, the organizers of the upcoming regional conferences. Apart from some particular criticism, the feedback for this decision was basically unanimously positive.
I hope that helps. Happy to answer any questions regarding this.
Best regards, Cornelius
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference/2015%E2%80%932017_Repor... [2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference/2015%E2%80%932017_Repor... < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference/2015%E2%80%932017_Repor...
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_Insights/2018_Report#Co... [4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Reading_material#F... [5]
https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program/We_learned_one_thing_from_o...
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 23:30, Shani Evenstein shani.even@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Cornelius,
Could you please elaborate re the decision to not include learning and capacity building? Events where Wikimedians from around the world gather together do not happen every day, and especially as there will be representatives from
most
affiliates, this is a great opportunity to share knowledge and train
people
so they can go back to their local communities and spread that knowledge. Besides Wikimania, which not everyone can attend, this is the other
biggest
event we have to do just that. Shouldn't we seize this opportunity, considering that it takes so much time, effort and money to bring
everyone
together?
Thanks for shedding some light on this issue.
Best, Shani.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe
the
part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees
and
the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on
the
Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in
general"?
Are
you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online
Wikimedia
activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those
activities
are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by
affiliates.
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I think it is a very good move.
Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people. All those who do great things, but who are not representative of an affiliate. Berlin has become so big that increasingly, many decisions are made over there, in a closed environment. And those who are not part it are missing opportunities to weight in. And with the increasing number of affiliates, making this closed conference a central point for thinking, sharing, learning, is likely to create a *huge* monster very difficult to organise and very costly.
I hear you when you say "it was a great opportunity to share knowledge and train people". This is true. But there is no reason not to provide this opportunity in more venues or more regularly.
This move means we have more leverage to organize thematic-based or regional-based events, with open participation. We should make sure that all those events involve "learning" elements. And we need more support from WMF (other any affiliates) to organise the other events.
Florence
Le 25/09/2018 à 23:28, Shani Evenstein a écrit :
Dear Cornelius,
Could you please elaborate re the decision to not include learning and capacity building? Events where Wikimedians from around the world gather together do not happen every day, and especially as there will be representatives from most affiliates, this is a great opportunity to share knowledge and train people so they can go back to their local communities and spread that knowledge. Besides Wikimania, which not everyone can attend, this is the other biggest event we have to do just that. Shouldn't we seize this opportunity, considering that it takes so much time, effort and money to bring everyone together?
Thanks for shedding some light on this issue.
Best, Shani.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"?
Are
you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online Wikimedia activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those activities are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by affiliates.
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Yes, +1 to "This move means we have more leverage to organize thematic-based or regional-based events, with open participation. We should make sure that all those events involve "learning" elements. And we need more support from WMF (other any affiliates) to organise the other events."
I did attend the Berlin conference in 2017 for the strategy sessions and even there you tend to get overloaded with information while concentrating on specific tasks. I think it's a good idea to split out gatherings into specific elements and then spread them around the world, because it gets exhausting to try to do everything everywhere and at the same time at these multi-purpose events. Alternatively, perhaps some of the key players could be asked to answer short interviews on specific topics, which would greatly reduce the need to fly around all the time. I know from experience that the quickest way to learn stuff is to sit at a computer next to someone in the know. However you can only ask people to do that a limited number of times. It gets to the point where one only wants to help the people who one is 100% certain are going to use what one teaches them...short videos on Commons might help with that problem.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:07 AM Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is a very good move.
Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people. All those who do great things, but who are not representative of an affiliate. Berlin has become so big that increasingly, many decisions are made over there, in a closed environment. And those who are not part it are missing opportunities to weight in. And with the increasing number of affiliates, making this closed conference a central point for thinking, sharing, learning, is likely to create a *huge* monster very difficult to organise and very costly.
I hear you when you say "it was a great opportunity to share knowledge and train people". This is true. But there is no reason not to provide this opportunity in more venues or more regularly.
This move means we have more leverage to organize thematic-based or regional-based events, with open participation. We should make sure that all those events involve "learning" elements. And we need more support from WMF (other any affiliates) to organise the other events.
Florence
Le 25/09/2018 à 23:28, Shani Evenstein a écrit :
Dear Cornelius,
Could you please elaborate re the decision to not include learning and capacity building? Events where Wikimedians from around the world gather together do not happen every day, and especially as there will be representatives from
most
affiliates, this is a great opportunity to share knowledge and train
people
so they can go back to their local communities and spread that knowledge. Besides Wikimania, which not everyone can attend, this is the other
biggest
event we have to do just that. Shouldn't we seize this opportunity, considering that it takes so much time, effort and money to bring
everyone
together?
Thanks for shedding some light on this issue.
Best, Shani.
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe
the
part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"?
Are
you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online
Wikimedia
activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those
activities
are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by
affiliates.
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is a very good move.
Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people. All those who do great things, but who are not representative of an affiliate.
True. But:
Berlin has become so big that increasingly, many decisions are made over there, in a closed environment. And those who are not part it are missing opportunities to weight in.
I have been to every Wikimedia Conference since 2009, and I disagree with this characterization. I am hard-pressed to think of *decisions* made at WMCON. I remember discussions, feedback-gathering (e.g. the recent strategy work), but not *decisions*. The only *decisions* I can think of actually made at the Wikimedia Conference are either: 1. committee decisions (e.g. AffCom), using the conference for a face-to-face meeting and making the same kinds of decisions they otherwise make online, or 2. decisions between a group of volunteers to collaborate on something (i.e. individuals inspiring each other into undertaking a volunteer project, e.g. WLM).
Characterizing this conference as a secretive decision-making cabal is untrue and unfair, and may give people who've never been to it a very wrong impression.
A.
Le 27/09/2018 à 10:00, Asaf Bartov a écrit :
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is a very good move.
Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole lot of people. All those who do great things, but who are not representative of an affiliate.
True. But:
Berlin has become so big that increasingly, many decisions are made over there, in a closed environment. And those who are not part it are missing opportunities to weight in.
I have been to every Wikimedia Conference since 2009, and I disagree with this characterization. I am hard-pressed to think of *decisions* made at WMCON. I remember discussions, feedback-gathering (e.g. the recent strategy work), but not *decisions*. The only *decisions* I can think of actually made at the Wikimedia Conference are either: 1. committee decisions (e.g. AffCom), using the conference for a face-to-face meeting and making the same kinds of decisions they otherwise make online, or 2. decisions between a group of volunteers to collaborate on something (i.e. individuals inspiring each other into undertaking a volunteer project, e.g. WLM).
Characterizing this conference as a secretive decision-making cabal is untrue and unfair, and may give people who've never been to it a very wrong impression.
A.
1) I did not say it was MAJOR decisions. But yet... there are decisions made that do impact the way volunteer community works.
2) And I did not saying that those are constructed and planned situations resulting from a cabalistic underground activity.
The decisions are made simply because some people find themselves together and have the opportunity to make decisions.
Please do not put words in mouth that I did not say. I never said that this was planned nor secret nor twisted. It just happens because people are at the same time at the same place. Of course, when you put 350 people together, most of them being part or a usergroup or committee or chapter, decisions will be made. The same happens in ANY wikimedia meeting. This is true of Wikimania, this is true of WikiIndaba or WikiCon. This is true of any event.
But Wikimedia Conference is nearly the only one which is a closed conference. There are a couple of other exceptions (such as some events related to gender).
I have no intent to create any public trouble here so will not provide an example on the list. Plus I do not think it is worth putting any light on this specific example.
But I am sending you a private email to give you a very simple and recent example.
Florence
Hi Cornelius,
Thank you for the clarification. I suggest a change of wording, because "the organized part of the movement" is much broader than WMF, its committees, and the affiliates. I suggest that a suitable name for the conference would be the "Wikimedia Affiliates Summit", which would be more accurate than the "Wikimedia Summit".
In general, I think that it's best to ask for public comment before making significant changes such as renaming international conferences.
Thank you,
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 9:20 PM Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"?
Are
you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online Wikimedia activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those activities are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by affiliates.
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Dear Pine,
I beg to differ on two points: As the Wikimedia Foundation is an essential part of this event, I don't consider "Wikimedia Affiliates Summit" as more accurate. This event covers, as mentioned before, the "organized (or "structured") part of the Wikimedia movement". As 'Wikimedia Summit' has not been used before in the Wikimedia movement (only for the 'Developers Summit'), I think this name is fresh, unused, short and easy to understand.
While I have asked for feedback on the concept extensively via different channels and opportunities, I think, it's not a wise decision to ask for public comment for a renaming. I consider the name of a conference as one of less relevant parts of organizing a conference. I would encourage to give feedback on more relevant issues than the name of an event.
Best regards Cornelius
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 07:42, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cornelius,
Thank you for the clarification. I suggest a change of wording, because "the organized part of the movement" is much broader than WMF, its committees, and the affiliates. I suggest that a suitable name for the conference would be the "Wikimedia Affiliates Summit", which would be more accurate than the "Wikimedia Summit".
In general, I think that it's best to ask for public comment before making significant changes such as renaming international conferences.
Thank you,
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 9:20 PM Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Pine,
yes, "the organized part of the movement" is another term to describe the part of the Wikimedia movement that includes the WMF, its committees and the affiliates.
Best regards Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 22:23, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Daniela and Cornelius,
Thank you for this update.
Can you clarify what you mean by "The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general"?
Are
you referring to governance for the WMF and affiliates? Online
Wikimedia
activities are organized in varying degrees, but many of those
activities
are not included in the scope of affiliates or represented by
affiliates.
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Just to make a clarification: I made a small mistake in a sentence that should actually be:
Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs
(~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (*~20*), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do not come in another role (~20).
I am sorry for this error, Best regards
Cornelius
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 21:34, Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general. The program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating three days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants. As it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do not come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this on Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to get a visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
-- Cornelius Kibelka Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC) for the Wikimedia Conference
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Thank you for the update and thinking through the changing direction of the 2019 conference.
I only wish that a different term than “Capacity Building” were used as something excluded from the upcoming conference, given that it is also the name of one of the Movement Strategy working groups. I know that is not what you meant, but the irony . . .
-----
With Incredulity toward Metanarratives,
Jeffrey User:FULBERT FULBERT@fulbert.org
On Sep 25, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cornelius Kibelka cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general. The program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating three days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants. As it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do not come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this on Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to get a visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
-- Cornelius Kibelka Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC) for the Wikimedia Conference
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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I have so many questions.
Is anything concrete planned to replace the learning and capacity-building work that used to happen at WMCON? (Or has the identification of capacity building as a strategic priority just resulted in .... the abandonment of the main capacity building event?)
And why after two "strategy focused" conferences, do we need another one? What will it achieve except acres more flipchart? How many conferences do we expect to need before the strategic direction starts to become a reality?
Chris
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, 20:34 Cornelius Kibelka, < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general. The program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating three days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants. As it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do not come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this on Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to get a visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
-- Cornelius Kibelka Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC) for the Wikimedia Conference
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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Hey Chris,
I'm also not specially fond of those "flipchart" workshops/sessions. I understand they are needed, but "that's not my beach", so to speak. Maybe I got it wrong, but I understood the strategy focus on the kind of connections, deals and partnerships everybody was already doing there: Projects between chapters, international cooperation, exchange of experiences in chapter governance, brainstorming about specific problems, and so on.
That interaction then optimally would lead to the organization of a number of more localized /regional-level, and more inclusive/overreaching, capacity building /learning events, which would be in turn much more effective than shifting two persons to Berlin that will attempt to participate in everything and its mother, while doing all that connection/strategic stuff in the betweens.
Paulo
Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com escreveu no dia quarta, 26/09/2018 à(s) 21:17:
I have so many questions.
Is anything concrete planned to replace the learning and capacity-building work that used to happen at WMCON? (Or has the identification of capacity building as a strategic priority just resulted in .... the abandonment of the main capacity building event?)
And why after two "strategy focused" conferences, do we need another one? What will it achieve except acres more flipchart? How many conferences do we expect to need before the strategic direction starts to become a reality?
Chris
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, 20:34 Cornelius Kibelka, < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to
give
you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that
will
take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general.
The
program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating
three
days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants.
As
it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of
Trustees
(10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple
APG)
and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do
not
come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this
on
Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to
get a
visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
-- Cornelius Kibelka Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC) for the Wikimedia Conference
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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Hi Cornelius,
I understand the reasons for the change to the content of the conference, but I will continue to disagree on the name and the importance of naming things https://hilton.org.uk/blog/why-naming-things-is-hard. In the Wikiverse there is a large vocabulary for tools, policies, namespaces, frameworks, etc., and I for one invest substantial time and effort into deciding the names for anything that I think may be high profile. WMF Communications could probably produce a full day workshop about branding, and I associate the art of naming things closely with the art of branding.
Regarding the event, the summit is not an all-Wikimedia summit; it is a summit for WMF, WMF committees, and affiliate organizations. So I consider "Wikimedia Summit" to be a misleading name, and would encourage you to think further about it. Perhaps the name could be a subject that is discussed at the conference.
Good luck with the new focus of the event. I am cautiously supportive of the change of content.
Hi Chris,
I can comment on your question why we need another strategy conference: The Wikimedia 2030 process is ongoing, and is building – among many other inputs – upon the outcomes of the last two conferences. Organized groups are already working on the implementation of the Strategic Direction in their own strategic/annual planning and programmatic work, and Working Groups start developing recommendations for change on the structural level of the movement.
In spring 2019, these groups will need feedback and input from the movement's organized groups and the Wikimedia Summit – alongside other opportunities for community consultations – will be build as a platform to synchronize the Working Groups' work and to gather and synthesize this input and agree upon next steps.
I hope this helps to shed some light on the need for this event. Please let me know if you have further questions. We'll also be presenting the current state of the strategy process at today's activities meeting; if you're interested in tuning in: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_monthly_activities_meetings
All the best Nicole
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 22:18, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
I have so many questions.
Is anything concrete planned to replace the learning and capacity-building work that used to happen at WMCON? (Or has the identification of capacity building as a strategic priority just resulted in .... the abandonment of the main capacity building event?)
And why after two "strategy focused" conferences, do we need another one? What will it achieve except acres more flipchart? How many conferences do we expect to need before the strategic direction starts to become a reality?
Chris
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, 20:34 Cornelius Kibelka, < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to
give
you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that
will
take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general.
The
program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating
three
days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants.
As
it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of
Trustees
(10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple
APG)
and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do
not
come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this
on
Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to
get a
visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1]
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This is very remarkable that nobody is actually interested in input from what the WMF functionaries now call "unorganized volunteers" - people who actually work in the projects. We are just not in the picture. Good luck with that. Do not be surprised to see a huge number of volunteers to oppose the strategy document again, as it happened last year.
Cheers Yaroslav
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:54 PM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi Chris,
I can comment on your question why we need another strategy conference: The Wikimedia 2030 process is ongoing, and is building – among many other inputs – upon the outcomes of the last two conferences. Organized groups are already working on the implementation of the Strategic Direction in their own strategic/annual planning and programmatic work, and Working Groups start developing recommendations for change on the structural level of the movement.
In spring 2019, these groups will need feedback and input from the movement's organized groups and the Wikimedia Summit – alongside other opportunities for community consultations – will be build as a platform to synchronize the Working Groups' work and to gather and synthesize this input and agree upon next steps.
I hope this helps to shed some light on the need for this event. Please let me know if you have further questions. We'll also be presenting the current state of the strategy process at today's activities meeting; if you're interested in tuning in: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_monthly_activities_meetings
All the best Nicole
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 22:18, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
I have so many questions.
Is anything concrete planned to replace the learning and
capacity-building
work that used to happen at WMCON? (Or has the identification of capacity building as a strategic priority just resulted in .... the abandonment of the main capacity building event?)
And why after two "strategy focused" conferences, do we need another one? What will it achieve except acres more flipchart? How many conferences do we expect to need before the strategic direction starts to become a reality?
Chris
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, 20:34 Cornelius Kibelka, < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to
give
you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that
will
take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general.
The
program will be designed according to the status and needs of the
ongoing
Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see
a
diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating
three
days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not
be
part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in
the
composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants.
As
it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of
Trustees
(10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple
APG)
and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do
not
come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding
this
on
Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end
on
December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to
get a
visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not
hesitate
to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
-- Cornelius Kibelka Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC) for the Wikimedia Conference
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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Hi Cornelius,
a quick sanity check (sorry if this was already discussed): in your overview, you don't mention any WMF staff members as such. Is that because they won't be invited in that capacity (i.e. not including staff members that happen to be in affcom, that are affiliate representatives or as strategy working group representative, or as 'organizer'), or is their number just not limited by a quotum like the other groups, and are you counting on WMF to make sane decisions on who to send? Secondly, are you also planning to invite people 'à titre personnel' to the conference/summit/event besides these numbers? (i.e. because they would add value to the program on a particular topic, or because they have specific expertise) I'm thinking of volunteer community members that may have input for certain discussions but are not part of an affiliate or formal committee, or external experts such as the CEO of Creative Commons, who was invited in the past.
Best, Lodewijk
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:35 PM Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general. The program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating three days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants. As it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do not come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this on Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to get a visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
-- Cornelius Kibelka Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC) for the Wikimedia Conference
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Hi Lodewijk,
quick sanity check answer: * I do mention WMF staff members. Of the 200 participants, we see at least 20 staff members of the Wikimedia Foundation participating that are not present in other roles (like the ones you have mentioned). It is also mentioned on the Eligibility Criteria page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria * The 4th group of participants (around 20 or more seats) consists of Working Group members, but also external experts. Together with the Movement Strategy Core Team we will invite additional experts, as we have done in the past as well. Ryan Merkley, the CC CEO you have mentioned, was at the Conference in 2017 and 2018. As well, two staff members of Mozilla have been present there as well. We would like to continue this.
Hope that answers your questions.
Best regards Cornelius
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 23:49, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cornelius,
a quick sanity check (sorry if this was already discussed): in your overview, you don't mention any WMF staff members as such. Is that because they won't be invited in that capacity (i.e. not including staff members that happen to be in affcom, that are affiliate representatives or as strategy working group representative, or as 'organizer'), or is their number just not limited by a quotum like the other groups, and are you counting on WMF to make sane decisions on who to send? Secondly, are you also planning to invite people 'à titre personnel' to the conference/summit/event besides these numbers? (i.e. because they would add value to the program on a particular topic, or because they have specific expertise) I'm thinking of volunteer community members that may have input for certain discussions but are not part of an affiliate or formal committee, or external experts such as the CEO of Creative Commons, who was invited in the past.
Best, Lodewijk
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:35 PM Cornelius Kibelka < cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear all,
As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks ago, we would like to give you some further information about the next Wikimedia Conference, that will take place from March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany.
The next conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general. The program will be designed according to the status and needs of the ongoing Movement Strategy process and its working groups. We are hoping to see a diverse group of participants next year, and look forward to creating three days of working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Thus, to make it clearer that learning and capacity-building will not be part of the program and cut laces to the previous conference, we will change the name to “Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit).
The change of the purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200 participants. As it is this still the Wikimedia affiliates conference, every _eligible_ affiliate can send one (1) delegate. Furthermore, we will invite participants from the Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of Trustees (10), WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC, AffCom and Simple APG) and additional members of the Movement Strategy working groups, that do not come in another role (~20). You can find more information regarding this on Meta.[1]
Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on November 2 and end on December 17, 2018. We urge participants that need a visa to register no later than November 19, so we can support them as best as possible to get a visa for the event.
We will keep you updated in the further weeks and months via the usual communication channels. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us, preferably via wmsummit@wikimedia.de.
Best regards,
Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019/Eligibility_Criteria
-- Cornelius Kibelka Program and Engagement Coordinator (PEC) for the Wikimedia Conference
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de
Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/
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