2011/12/1 Carol Moore carolmooredc@verizon.net

On 11/29/2011 5:19 PM, emijrp wrote:

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So, the first step would be to try and figure out if women are visiting the site and not editing or just not visiting at all, before saying nonsense about sexism and Wikipedia community.

Fundraising from women is an interesting topic. You may think comments about sexism and the Wikipedia community are nonsense, but guess what. Women who take a lot of sexist nonsense AT wikipedia sure aren't going to donate TO wikipedia, are they?

Also, since women in general are busier with work AND family responsibilities, so often the women who have the most time to edit are unemployed, disabled, retired or otherwise on limited incomes.

[citation needed]

Furthermore, editing Wikipedia only requires 30 minutes a day/week. I'm sure all women waste more time watching TV. But watching TV is funnier for most the people.

In the other hand, looks like women in all ages have time to waste in Facebook http://www.kenburbary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Image1_thumb3.png And gender balance is fifty-fifty.

Finally, if the reason for the low female editors proportion is time, how can Wikipedia solve that? Are we going to pay to female editors for their time?

I can think of a few. Besides a ten spot here and a ten spot there, we can't give large amounts of money.

But there are women with big bucks out

there giving lots to women-friendly organizations left and right. We must make Wikipedia women friendly to get their money.

You are wrong. To see donation banners and to donate only reading is required, not editing. Are you going to say that only poor women read Wikipedia?

By they way, making Wikipedia women friendly? What does that mean? Is that a new politically correct science?

Better, make Wikipedia friendly to disabled people, the great forgotten excluded people group. For example, blind people can't sign up because of Wikipedia captcha (there is no sound captcha https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845). That is a real barrier which Wikimedia Foundation have to solve putting resources.

Where is the accessibility mailing list? Accessibility is a recommendation by W3C since 1997, and we are in the top ten websites, as WMF likes to boast.

Anyway, putting down one of the main concerns of this list as nonsense is not helpful.

Sure. For your information, this mailing list is a insult to the real excluded people.

Thanks.

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