---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike Godwin mgodwin@wikimedia.org Date: Aug 25, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia logos on Commons To: Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com Cc: Kat Walsh mindspillage@gmail.com
I should add that I'm all for making the logos available from some central location for WMF and chapters to use. I just don't think they should be lumped together with Commons -- that's a recipe for misunderstanding.
--m
On Aug 25, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Casey Brown wrote:
Some guy nommed all the WMF logos on Commons for deletion because they were "not free" (Commons only accepts freely-licensed images). You can see the full convo in the Foundation-l archvies.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com Date: Aug 25, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia logos on Commons To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Has anyone asked Mike's opinion on the discussion? Last I checked he was working on trademarks (and probably logos too). I'm sure he'd find this somewhat interesting.
On 8/25/07, Delirium delirium@hackish.org wrote:
Brian wrote:
I think Erik really got to the heart of the issue. If this _were_ an
issue,
it boils down to the fact that you need to have legal protection of
certain
digital media that is somewhat stricter than your philosophy usually permits, and finding a way to tackle that problem in all open source projects is the place to do this, perhaps with a new type of license.
Well, the way the Debian project solved this is by [gasp!] just freely licensing their logo, as far as copyright goes, but retaining a trademark that they can use to prohibit misleading uses.
(They do also have a "this logo is for official Debian use only" logo, but it's not the common one that is usually associated with the project.)
See: http://www.debian.org/logos/
IMO this is a much better way of handling it without inviting obvious discussions about consistency.
-Mark
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I think Mike has the right idea, but there is one issue I want to bring up...
A lot of projects will do an ad-hoc derivative logo (Eg on Wikinews we did an "ongoing story" one). How easy is it going to be to put these logos into the right place?
Brian.
-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Casey Brown Sent: 25 August 2007 22:33 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia logos on Commons
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mike Godwin mgodwin@wikimedia.org Date: Aug 25, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia logos on Commons To: Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com Cc: Kat Walsh mindspillage@gmail.com
I should add that I'm all for making the logos available from some central location for WMF and chapters to use. I just don't think they should be lumped together with Commons -- that's a recipe for misunderstanding.
--m
On Aug 25, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Casey Brown wrote:
Some guy nommed all the WMF logos on Commons for deletion because they were "not free" (Commons only accepts freely-licensed images). You can see the full convo in the Foundation-l archvies.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com Date: Aug 25, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia logos on Commons To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Has anyone asked Mike's opinion on the discussion? Last I checked he was working on trademarks (and probably logos too). I'm sure he'd find this somewhat interesting.
On 8/25/07, Delirium delirium@hackish.org wrote:
Brian wrote:
I think Erik really got to the heart of the issue. If this _were_ an
issue,
it boils down to the fact that you need to have legal protection of
certain
digital media that is somewhat stricter than your philosophy usually permits, and finding a way to tackle that problem in all open source projects is the place to do this, perhaps with a new type of license.
Well, the way the Debian project solved this is by [gasp!] just freely licensing their logo, as far as copyright goes, but retaining a trademark that they can use to prohibit misleading uses.
(They do also have a "this logo is for official Debian use only" logo, but it's not the common one that is usually associated with the project.)
See: http://www.debian.org/logos/
IMO this is a much better way of handling it without inviting obvious discussions about consistency.
-Mark
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