Hello knowledgeable people!
I'm trying to write about unified login for a larger text about Wikimedia and wanted to double-check my understanding of the process:
1) is this text currently correct? What should be added to it? "At this time, you must create an account on for each new project you wish to work on. This is changing with the introduction in mid-2008 of single-user login, where users can link their existing accounts across all Wikimedia projects."
2) in future, will people be able to create just one account on a project and be able to log in with it on all of the projects? Or will new users still have to manually create their account (using the same name) on each wiki they wish to work on?
3) After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on, say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
3) is there a preferred name for SUL yet? Single-user login? Unified login? Others?
Thanks in advance, and feel free to send me edits/comments off-list. :) -- phoebe
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:17 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
- in future, will people be able to create just one account on a
project and be able to log in with it on all of the projects? Or will new users still have to manually create their account (using the same name) on each wiki they wish to work on?
You have to run Special:MergeAccount once. When you have done that an account will automatically created when you visit another wiki you don't have an account yet.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hello knowledgeable people!
I'm trying to write about unified login for a larger text about Wikimedia and wanted to double-check my understanding of the process:
- is this text currently correct? What should be added to it?
"At this time, you must create an account on for each new project you wish to work on. This is changing with the introduction in mid-2008 of single-user login, where users can link their existing accounts across all Wikimedia projects."
- in future, will people be able to create just one account on a
project and be able to log in with it on all of the projects? Or will new users still have to manually create their account (using the same name) on each wiki they wish to work on?
Currently, they just: 1. Create an account on any wiki. 2. Visit Special:MergeAccount and follow the instructions (this merges their accounts and creates a global one) 3. Profit 3.1. the ability to log-in to any wiki with the same userdata without creating a new account 3.2. "global session" type thing where with one log-in, you are logged into most of the wiki-sites at once.
- After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on,
say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
I'm pretty sure that the answers for 3 are "yes" and "now"
- is there a preferred name for SUL yet? Single-user login? Unified
login? Others?
I think those are all used interchangeably, but we use "global user" in the software. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalUsers
Thanks in advance, and feel free to send me edits/comments off-list. :) -- phoebe
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
- After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on,
say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
I'm pretty sure that the answers for 3 are "yes" and "now"
Hmm, really? I thought your name was only reserved if you use mergeaccount. Lemme check.
1) Created account "ownersdraw" on en.wikipedia. 2) Logout 3) Created account "ownersdraw" on de.wikipedia (using a different password, just in case)
Worked, so no, it's not set up that way yet.
Anthony
- After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on,
say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
I'm pretty sure that the answers for 3 are "yes" and "now"
Hmm, really? I thought your name was only reserved if you use mergeaccount. Lemme check.
- Created account "ownersdraw" on en.wikipedia.
- Logout
- Created account "ownersdraw" on de.wikipedia (using a different
password, just in case)
Worked, so no, it's not set up that way yet.
Anthony
Oh yeah, you're right.. my problem was that I was assuming this person already merged accounts (oops).
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
- After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on,
say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
I'm pretty sure that the answers for 3 are "yes" and "now"
Hmm, really? I thought your name was only reserved if you use mergeaccount. Lemme check.
- Created account "ownersdraw" on en.wikipedia.
- Logout
- Created account "ownersdraw" on de.wikipedia (using a different
password, just in case)
Worked, so no, it's not set up that way yet.
Anthony
Does anyone know if the plan for the future (after existing accounts are sorted out) is to have names be reserved when you register them anywhere, though?
Thanks all for your help -- phoebe
phoebe ayers wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
- After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on,
say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
I'm pretty sure that the answers for 3 are "yes" and "now"
Hmm, really? I thought your name was only reserved if you use mergeaccount. Lemme check.
- Created account "ownersdraw" on en.wikipedia.
- Logout
- Created account "ownersdraw" on de.wikipedia (using a different
password, just in case)
Worked, so no, it's not set up that way yet.
Anthony
Does anyone know if the plan for the future (after existing accounts are sorted out) is to have names be reserved when you register them anywhere, though?
I think that is the eventual plan, if and when we actually get to the point where everything else is sorted out.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:44 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
- After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on,
say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
I'm pretty sure that the answers for 3 are "yes" and "now"
Hmm, really? I thought your name was only reserved if you use mergeaccount. Lemme check.
- Created account "ownersdraw" on en.wikipedia.
- Logout
- Created account "ownersdraw" on de.wikipedia (using a different
password, just in case)
Worked, so no, it's not set up that way yet.
Anthony
Does anyone know if the plan for the future (after existing accounts are sorted out) is to have names be reserved when you register them anywhere, though?
When you merge your account, the name is reserved across all Wikimedia
projects (no one except the Global account holder could register that name on any wiki). The merge operation itself is still opt-in (the account is not merged upon signup yet), meaning you have to merge it before the username gets reserved. *1
1 = Brion
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:17 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
- is this text currently correct? What should be added to it?
"At this time, you must create an account on for each new project you wish to work on. This is changing with the introduction in mid-2008 of single-user login, where users can link their existing accounts across all Wikimedia projects."
It's entirely incorrect. At this time, you may create an account on any project, and if no one else has used that name on any Wikimedia project, you can register it for global use on all wikis immediately. Logging out and then back in (or maybe not even that) will cause you to be logged in on all wikis.
- in future, will people be able to create just one account on a
project and be able to log in with it on all of the projects? Or will new users still have to manually create their account (using the same name) on each wiki they wish to work on?
There's no "in future" about it. It's in place now.
- After SUL is fully deployed, when users create a new account (on,
say, the english wikipedia) will that name automatically be 'reserved' for use on all Wikimedia wikis? [if so, when will this happen?]
Yes. This will probably happen shortly, in the next couple of months, I suppose. Currently, the name is only reserved when you visit Special:MergeAccount; in the future, that step will be skipped.
- is there a preferred name for SUL yet? Single-user login? Unified
login? Others?
Don't think so, really.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know if the plan for the future (after existing accounts are sorted out) is to have names be reserved when you register them anywhere, though?
Yes, of course. Accounts will be automatically unified on account creation in the (probably not-too-distant) future. I imagine this hasn't yet been done only because we want a gradual rollout so any problems can be spotted before they become too serious.
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