---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com Date: Sep 25, 2012 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FUD&Chilling Effects&Filters&Outlawing To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
This is old news. This is what we've been protesting against all throughout the SOPA/ACTA related actions. Yes it is alarming, but we've been aware of them for years. On Sep 25, 2012 9:22 PM, "ENWP Pine" deyntestiss@hotmail.com wrote:
Some of what that article describes is absurd and would run counter to principles that I think Europe generally supports. I think most of us would agree that the internet can be used for dangerous and fraudulent purposes and that governments have a role in protecting the public from genuine danger and fraud, but those efforts need to be done in a reasonable and balanced way that respects important liberty principles that underpin governments that are "of the people, by the people, for the people."
I hope that WMF Legal takes a look at this article and evaluates how much of it is truthful. Hopefully that article is more rumor than truth.
Pine
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:52:30 +0300 From: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonavaro@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**orgwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] FUD&Chilling Effects&Filters&Outlawing Anonymity&Unrestricted Surveillance of the Nets 'Alive and Well in the European Union'!!! Message-ID: <CAJ9-**EKJNS9T7tCdFBe4aOYEHQfPuQpYaoO**AiWVVRYYEnV5ZmoA@mail.gmail.**comCAJ9-EKJNS9T7tCdFBe4aOYEHQfPuQpYaoOAiWVVRYYEnV5ZmoA@mail.gmail.com
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I challenge any knowledgeable and clueful person to peruse that above link and not reel back in horror and incredulity... Can somebody either confirm that people in WMF are aware of the above Charlie Foxtrot; or failing that, bump it up to people who are qualified and empowered to consider how WMF should approach the situation. Would be nice to hear that the above report is inaccurate, unwarrantedly alarmist, or that the proposals will come to nothing in any case, but...
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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
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