Hi,
The Werner Icking Music Archive has announced it's no longer capable of coping with the large amount of visitors to the site. They are considering hosting the content somewhere else. This archive contains much sheet music of public domain music. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Icking_Music_Archive http://icking-music-archive.org
I'm not sure if the content they published is in the public domain or under a free license (by WMF's definition), but it seems worthwhile to examine this in detail. Perhaps even offering to (temporarily?) host the website (readonly or allow editing?) or convert it into a new Wiki project (which – without doubt – would be a huge amount of work).
What do you think?
Regards, --User:Church of emacs
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:42 AM, church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs.ml@googlemail.com wrote:
convert it into a new Wiki project (which – without doubt – would be a huge amount of work).
If we did that, couldn't we just use Commons/Wikisource? I think Wikisource already has quite a bit of music there. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Sheet_music
Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work out. I sent Christian Mondrup an Email asking for more details and he responded that he had already contacted Wikimedia. As the majority of the works cannot be licensed under a Creative Commons license (from which I conclude that the works are non-free), WMF won't host the website.
Regards,
User:Church of emacs
On 1 March 2010 00:06, church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs.ml@googlemail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to work out. I sent Christian Mondrup an Email asking for more details and he responded that he had already contacted Wikimedia. As the majority of the works cannot be licensed under a Creative Commons license (from which I conclude that the works are non-free), WMF won't host the website.
Judging from (an older version of?) the website, it's a general non-commercial license on all submissions:
::: The archive contains "free" sheet music, free for non-commercial usage. This ::: means that you may download the files and print paper copies, but neither ::: the files nor the paper copies may be sold. (...)
http://www.daimi.au.dk/~reccmo/scores/Introduction.html#copyright
I suspect the older (& definitionally public domain) material, could be rehosted, but we'd have to seperate that out from the rest, and then tackle the problem of whether any "editing" people have done to them gives rise to new copyrights...
On 1 March 2010 12:52, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Judging from (an older version of?) the website, it's a general non-commercial license on all submissions: ::: The archive contains "free" sheet music, free for non-commercial usage. This ::: means that you may download the files and print paper copies, but neither ::: the files nor the paper copies may be sold. (...) http://www.daimi.au.dk/~reccmo/scores/Introduction.html#copyright I suspect the older (& definitionally public domain) material, could be rehosted, but we'd have to seperate that out from the rest, and then tackle the problem of whether any "editing" people have done to them gives rise to new copyrights...
So if we can help them find a new home that isn't us, we can at least then pick out and curate the PD stuff.
Anyone got a contact at IA or ibiblio?
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 1 March 2010 12:52, Andrew Gray wrote:
Judging from (an older version of?) the website, it's a general non-commercial license on all submissions: ::: The archive contains "free" sheet music, free for non-commercial usage. This ::: means that you may download the files and print paper copies, but neither ::: the files nor the paper copies may be sold. (...) http://www.daimi.au.dk/~reccmo/scores/Introduction.html#copyright I suspect the older (& definitionally public domain) material, could be rehosted, but we'd have to seperate that out from the rest, and then tackle the problem of whether any "editing" people have done to them gives rise to new copyrights...
So if we can help them find a new home that isn't us, we can at least then pick out and curate the PD stuff.
Anyone got a contact at IA or ibiblio
What organisations like this, or new projects like the almanac proposal, need is encouragement to find funding for their own sites. WMF's size gives it a big advantage in fundraising, but a diversity of sites is healthy for the state of online information. We are familiar with nearly all the intellectual conflicts going around, but the danger in our addiction to reliability is in the marginalization of alternative views because of technical interpretations of the rules. We need more of these independent sites, each with its own policies, its own legal risks, and own funding.
Ec
On 28 February 2010 12:42, church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs.ml@googlemail.com wrote:
The Werner Icking Music Archive has announced it's no longer capable of coping with the large amount of visitors to the site. They are considering hosting the content somewhere else. This archive contains much sheet music of public domain music. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Icking_Music_Archive http://icking-music-archive.org
The Internet Archive brags of being able to swallow and serve large archives. They or ibiblio would be ideal hosts.
But yes, any help we can supply would be most excellent.
- d.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:31 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 February 2010 12:42, church.of.emacs.ml
The Internet Archive brags of being able to swallow and serve large archives. They or ibiblio would be ideal hosts.
But yes, any help we can supply would be most excellent.
They may brag about it but trying to get in touch with them about acquiring projects can be daunting and hard.
Sincerely, Laura Hale
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org