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Sumana Harihareswara

16 May 2012 16 May '12

3:23 p.m.

When you're running an event, sometimes you want to help lots of people create accounts on Wikimedia sites. To prevent spamming/vandalism, ordinarily there's a cap on the number of accounts that can be created from one IP address in a single day. But there's a way to ask for a temporary removal of that restriction. The Foundation's Maggie Dennis has written a quick HOWTO: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_request_lift_of_an_IP_cap and so please feel free to link to it in your outreach HOWTOs, event planning checklists, and so on. Thanks, Maggie! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

16 May 16 May

3:41 p.m.

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Sumana Harihareswara, 16/05/2012 17:23:

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Personally I don't like such requests to sysadmins, they're usually an unneeded hassle for everyone, but this how-to nicely fills a gap left by the more general how-to on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Mass_account_creation Nemo

Tom Morris

3:47 p.m.

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Generally, at UK outreach events, there has usually been an enwiki admin or two around who can create accounts for people. Admins (and accountcreators) are not subject to account creation limits. On May 16, 2012 4:23 PM, "Sumana Harihareswara" <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Maggie Dennis

4:17 p.m.

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Clarification on this process was actually most recently requested by an en Wiki admin on the principle that people who create their own accounts are more likely to care about them. :) Maggie On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Tom Morris <bbtommorris(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

10:21 p.m.

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Maggie Dennis, 16/05/2012 18:17:

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Clarification on this process was actually most recently requested by an en Wiki admin on the principle that people who create their own accounts are more likely to care about them. :)

To care or to be able to do something with them? Anyway, they can create their accounts in any case, with the help of a sysop/bureaucrat/accountcreator. Nemo

Ivan Martínez

10:31 p.m.

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Thanks for the info. In the first session with the Wikipedia Student Club in UNAM, I have troubles for this issue. Regards, 2012/5/16 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>

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Maggie Dennis, 16/05/2012 18:17: Clarification on this process was actually most recently requested by an

en Wiki admin on the principle that people who create their own accounts are more likely to care about them. :)

To care or to be able to do something with them? Anyway, they can create their accounts in any case, with the help of a sysop/bureaucrat/** accountcreator. Nemo ______________________________**_________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.**org <Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l<https://lists…

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MZMcBride

17 May 17 May

2:04 a.m.

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Sumana Harihareswara wrote:

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Hi. Before this guide gets distributed too widely, I'd think about its scalability. Shell requests can take weeks, months, or even years to get resolved, even when filed properly. There was some talk about adding a whitelist to a MediaWiki page via an extension (cf. <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25000> and related SVN revisions). That would allow any local administrator to fix this without a bunch of paperwork and editing PHP and syncing it everywhere. Another option would be to add a time guarantee (e.g., "if you submit your bug within two weeks of your conference/gathering/whatever, we'll have the exemption ready"). The few people (shell users) capable of fulfilling these requests really ought be doing other things, though. I'd go with the whitelist. The code's already written, even, it just needs to be pushed out to a Hacks extension or something: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/72959#c9219>. MZMcBride

K. Peachey

3:38 a.m.

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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:

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Before this guide gets distributed too widely, I'd think about its scalability. Shell requests can take weeks, months, or even years to get resolved, even when filed properly.

Anyone in the world of tomorrow! can do shell requests (Git), Then we just need to bug people to get it merged (eg: Reedy/Roan/others etc etc). That will cut down a lot of time.

Federico Leva (Nemo)

5:29 a.m.

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K. Peachey, 17/05/2012 05:38:

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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, MZMcBride<z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:

Before this guide gets distributed too widely, I'd think about its scalability. Shell requests can take weeks, months, or even years to get resolved, even when filed properly.

Anyone in the world of tomorrow! can do shell requests (Git), Then we just need to bug people to get it merged (eg: Reedy/Roan/others etc etc). That will cut down a lot of time.

Not really, the associated bugzilla paperwork or IRC begging is still needed. Nemo

Asaf Bartov

24 May 24 May

9:48 p.m.

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So, I often find myself doing outreach related to enwiki before large groups, and while I have no interest in becoming a sysop, could really use the Account Creator permission. Is there really no page to publicly request this? The instructions cited below, taken from here[1], suggest so, but that just feels broken. I don't like the idea of privately reaching out to some admin for this permission. :-/ Asaf [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Becoming_an_.22account… On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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K. Peachey, 17/05/2012 05:38: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, MZMcBride<z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:

Before this guide gets distributed too widely, I'd think about its scalability. Shell requests can take weeks, months, or even years to get resolved, even when filed properly.

Anyone in the world of tomorrow! can do shell requests (Git), Then we just need to bug people to get it merged (eg: Reedy/Roan/others etc etc). That will cut down a lot of time.

Not really, the associated bugzilla paperwork or IRC begging is still needed. Nemo ______________________________**_________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.**org <Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l<https://lists…

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J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov

10:02 p.m.

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There is indeed a page on en.Wikipedia specifically for requests for the Account creator permission : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Account_cre… I don't know about other languages or projects. Alex 2012/5/24 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>

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K. Peachey, 17/05/2012 05:38: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, MZMcBride<z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote: > >> Before this guide gets distributed too widely, I'd think about its >> scalability. Shell requests can take weeks, months, or even years to

get

resolved, even when filed properly.

Anyone in the world of tomorrow! can do shell requests (Git), Then we just need to bug people to get it merged (eg: Reedy/Roan/others etc etc). That will cut down a lot of time.

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Asaf Bartov

10:15 p.m.

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So, I often find myself doing outreach related to enwiki before large groups, and while I have no interest in becoming a sysop, could really

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the Account Creator permission. Is there really no page to publicly request this? The instructions cited below, taken from here[1], suggest so, but that just feels broken. I don't like the idea of privately reaching out to some admin for this permission. :-/ Asaf [1]

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Becoming_an_.22account…

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

get >>> resolved, even when filed properly. >>> >> >> Anyone in the world of tomorrow! can do shell requests (Git), Then we >> just need to bug people to get it merged (eg: Reedy/Roan/others etc >> etc). >> >> That will cut down a lot of time. >> > > Not really, the associated bugzilla paperwork or IRC begging is still > needed. > > Nemo > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.**org <Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Unsubscribe:

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Sumana Harihareswara

27 Jul 27 Jul

12:21 a.m.

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Thanks to everyone who helped work on this documentation. I really appreciate it. Please distribute https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation and, within it, link to the relevant "becoming an account creator" pages on particular wikis. Thanks. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation On 05/24/2012 06:15 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote:

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Thanks, Alex! That was what I was looking for. :) It is now mentioned in the instructions on Meta. :) Cheers, Asaf On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov < alexandrdmitriromanov(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There is indeed a page on en.Wikipedia specifically for requests for the > Account creator permission : > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Account_cre… > > I don't know about other languages or projects. > > Alex > > > > 2012/5/24 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> > >> So, I often find myself doing outreach related to enwiki before large >> groups, and while I have no interest in becoming a sysop, could really > use >> the Account Creator permission. Is there really no page to publicly >> request this? The instructions cited below, taken from here[1], suggest >> so, but that just feels broken. I don't like the idea of privately >> reaching out to some admin for this permission. >> >> :-/ >> >> Asaf >> >> [1] >> >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Becoming_an_.22account…

Asaf Bartov

12:32 a.m.

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Thanks! http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Best_practices_in_organizin… A. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Sumana Harihareswara <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org

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> Thanks to everyone who helped work on this documentation. I really > appreciate it. Please distribute > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation and, within it, > link to the relevant "becoming an account creator" pages on particular > wikis. > > Thanks. > -- > Sumana Harihareswara > Engineering Community Manager > Wikimedia Foundation > > > On 05/24/2012 06:15 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > > Thanks, Alex! That was what I was looking for. :) > > > > It is now mentioned in the instructions on Meta. :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Asaf > > > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov < > > alexandrdmitriromanov(a)gmail.com

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> > > >> There is indeed a page on en.Wikipedia specifically for requests for the > >> Account creator permission : > >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Account_cre… > >> > >> I don't know about other languages or projects. > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> > >> > >> 2012/5/24 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> > >> > >>> So, I often find myself doing outreach related to enwiki before large > >>> groups, and while I have no interest in becoming a sysop, could really > >> use > >>> the Account Creator permission. Is there really no page to publicly > >>> request this? The instructions cited below, taken from here[1], > suggest > >>> so, but that just feels broken. I don't like the idea of privately > >>> reaching out to some admin for this permission. > >>> > >>> :-/ > >>> > >>> Asaf > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > >>> > >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Becoming_an_.22account… > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org

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Asaf Bartov
Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ivan Martínez
J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov
K. Peachey
Maggie Dennis
MZMcBride
Sumana Harihareswara
Tom Morris