Hi all,
A few weeks ago there was much discussion about establishing an announcement-only email list that would be used as a 'push-only' list where important announcements from the Foundation, chapters, or other representatives could be directed. Anyone could subscribe to this list and keep up to date on important events and information.
We now have this list up and running (I spent a little more time than I had planned testing stuff) and it's ready for subscribers: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l
We've created a page with general information about this list and how it will be moderated here: meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_list/Wikimedia_Announce
Initially we'll be sending all major news from the WMF here so news can be shared in one place: new staff, new programs, career opportunities, milestones, calls for response, reports from staff or the board, etc etc.
And of course we want this to be a place where similar news and information can be disseminated from our community.
Rather than overwhelm this new list with too many rules and guidelines, I'm happy to have suggestions for posts sent directly to me, or to the 'communications@wikimedia.org' proxy email address, or you can just write to the list address with your suggestion and we'll work with you to get it posted. Let's see how the traffic looks before thinking too much about what's wrong or right for the list - but ultimately readers will want to get relevant, good information and have advance notice of important happenings.
As we work out the kinks I'll be happy to bring on some other volunteer moderators to keep things moving as quickly as possible.
Foundation staff will begin to send information to this list as a default (new staff, major announcements, good news etc), although we will continue to share news on the pre-existing lists for the time being. Of course this shouldn't preclude any discussion about news and events. We expect to continue to converse about news and events on the other mailing lists as well. Anyone can submit relevant announcements for the list as well. Refer to the meta page for the basic guidelines. We will also point email updates from the Foundation blog to the WikimediaAnnounce-l.
The strategy is to provide a single list where public announcements can be collected, preventing missed information for people who participate on one list and not another.
You'll note that right now all replies to this list (if people are inclined to reply) will go directly to Foundation-l. We'll see how successful this is, or if it causes confusion for subscribers.
Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on this list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this list. Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
Thanks!
On 21 April 2010 01:14, Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
You'll note that right now all replies to this list (if people are inclined to reply) will go directly to Foundation-l. We'll see how successful this is, or if it causes confusion for subscribers.
Will all emails to the announcement list be sent to foundation-l too (I think this can be achieved by simply subscribing the foundation-l address to the announcements list)? If not, having replies going there will be very confusing.
Yes - this is a pretty simple thing to do. Thanks for pointing that out, Thomas. -jay (hoping he doesn't lose sense of communications reality by talking about a list within a list, or subscribing one list to another. phew)
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi all,
A few weeks ago there was much discussion about establishing an announcement-only email list that would be used as a 'push-only' list where important announcements from the Foundation, chapters, or other representatives could be directed. Anyone could subscribe to this list and keep up to date on important events and information.
We now have this list up and running (I spent a little more time than I had planned testing stuff) and it's ready for subscribers: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l
Sweet! I'm glad to see this finally happen. Thanks, Jay. The meta guidelines look good to me ... and now we have a mailing list we can direct the interested public to, huzzah!
phoebe
Hello,
The creation of this list sound very good, but when I read the rules on Meta I think the list is going to be spammed with non or less important information.
Participation announcements for Wiki meet-up
I'm sure there is a Wiki meet-up every weekend around the globe, posting this information to this list will probably spam. People interested in joining wiki meet-ups would find it in a local site and this list would probably reach to much people. Or there should be more information like Wiki meet-ups bigger than X people or something like that.
Publication of new issues of Wikipedia signpost, Wikizine, and other
The same here, when people would subscribe to this list they want to read about the announcements from the Foundation and there chapters, The Wikipedia Signpost is a weekly post and I guess people wouldn't want to subscribe to a announcement list en recieve multiple emails a week.
I would rather see to keep this list only for big events, announcement from staff, chapters and board and keep the other smaller things off this list.
Best regards,
Huib
On 21 April 2010 05:43, Huib! abigor@forgotten-beauty.com wrote:
Participation announcements for Wiki meet-up
I'm sure there is a Wiki meet-up every weekend around the globe, posting this information to this list will probably spam. People interested in joining wiki meet-ups would find it in a local site and this list would probably reach to much people. Or there should be more information like Wiki meet-ups bigger than X people or something like that.
I agree. Meetups, other than Wikimania, should be announced on local lists. I have no interest in meetups that are happening outside the UK since there is no chance I'll be attending them (if I know I'm going to be in another country and would like to know if there will be meetups there while I'm there, I will subscribe the the relevant local list, as I have done in the past).
On 21 Apr 2010, at 16:08, Thomas Dalton wrote:
On 21 April 2010 05:43, Huib! abigor@forgotten-beauty.com wrote:
Participation announcements for Wiki meet-up
I'm sure there is a Wiki meet-up every weekend around the globe, posting this information to this list will probably spam. People interested in joining wiki meet-ups would find it in a local site and this list would probably reach to much people. Or there should be more information like Wiki meet-ups bigger than X people or something like that.
I agree. Meetups, other than Wikimania, should be announced on local lists. I have no interest in meetups that are happening outside the UK since there is no chance I'll be attending them (if I know I'm going to be in another country and would like to know if there will be meetups there while I'm there, I will subscribe the the relevant local list, as I have done in the past).
A summary, once a month or so, of the upcoming meetups could work well. I believe that there's a sufficient number of meet-ups that there should be something nearby to a significant fraction of the audience of the announce list; if not, then a note at the end saying "Can't see a meetup near you? Organize one!" might change that over time.
It's probably something best appended to other information, though. E.g. have a headline of "first meetup in [Country X] planned", or coverage of a big in-person event, and then append a list of meetups after the main story.
Having said that: there's lots of other things that the announce list is better suited for than this.
Mike Peel
P.S. I'm looking forward to the day when we can have geolocated sitenotices for advertising meetups etc...
On 21 April 2010 16:54, Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
P.S. I'm looking forward to the day when we can have geolocated sitenotices for advertising meetups etc...
As long as you are happy with only logged in users seeing it, it should be possible to implement rather easily, I'm not sure why it hasn't been already (if anons need to see it too, there are caching issues). I didn't look into submitting a patch for it myself, but the existing code was very confusing and I didn't have time to trace through it.
On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Michael Peel wrote:
On 21 Apr 2010, at 16:08, Thomas Dalton wrote:
On 21 April 2010 05:43, Huib! abigor@forgotten-beauty.com wrote:
Participation announcements for Wiki meet-up
I'm sure there is a Wiki meet-up every weekend around the globe, posting this information to this list will probably spam. People interested in joining wiki meet-ups would find it in a local site and this list would probably reach to much people. Or there should be more information like Wiki meet-ups bigger than X people or something like that.
I agree. Meetups, other than Wikimania, should be announced on local lists. I have no interest in meetups that are happening outside the UK since there is no chance I'll be attending them (if I know I'm going to be in another country and would like to know if there will be meetups there while I'm there, I will subscribe the the relevant local list, as I have done in the past).
A summary, once a month or so, of the upcoming meetups could work well. I believe that there's a sufficient number of meet-ups that there should be something nearby to a significant fraction of the audience of the announce list; if not, then a note at the end saying "Can't see a meetup near you? Organize one!" might change that over time.
It's probably something best appended to other information, though. E.g. have a headline of "first meetup in [Country X] planned", or coverage of a big in-person event, and then append a list of meetups after the main story.
Having said that: there's lots of other things that the announce list is better suited for than this.
Mike Peel
P.S. I'm looking forward to the day when we can have geolocated sitenotices for advertising meetups etc...
This sounds like a good idea - keeping the list notes short and sweet. I'm actually quite interested in when meet-ups are happening around the world, but I agree it would be a lot of traffic. I'm trying to figure out how to be sensitive to traffic issues and needs. It seems to me that anyone subscribed to this list is opting-in to more info rather than less, but mostly info of 'macro' relevance to chapters and those following the motions of the Foundation.
Let's see how things go and adjust accordingly. Really appreciate everyone's feedback.
Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
[...] Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on this list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this list. Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
Could someone see to hooking it up to Gmane, please?
TIA, Tim
Hoi, I learned yesterday that the announcement list should have forwarded to the foundation-l it did not work because of a configuration issue.. In future announcements will forward as it should. Thanks, GerardM
On 6 May 2010 13:06, Tim Landscheidt tim@tim-landscheidt.de wrote:
Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
[...] Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on
this list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this list. Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
Could someone see to hooking it up to Gmane, please?
TIA, Tim
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
[Quoting reordered.]
Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on
this list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this list. Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
Could someone see to hooking it up to Gmane, please?
I learned yesterday that the announcement list should have forwarded to the foundation-l it did not work because of a configuration issue.. In future announcements will forward as it should.
That's not what I asked for.
Tim
Dnia 06.05.2010 Tim Landscheidt tim@tim-landscheidt.de napisał/a:
Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org wrote:
[...] Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on this list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this list. Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
Could someone see to hooking it up to Gmane, please?
Anyone can do it. I just posted a request to create
gmane.org.wikimedia.community.announce
(gmane.org.wikimedia.announce has been snarfed by Wikizine already).
Marcin Cieslak saper@saper.info wrote:
[...] Please share other thoughts or opportunities - on the meta page or on this list. And please also encourage others to widely subscribe to this list. Post to village pumps, on projects, etc.
Could someone see to hooking it up to Gmane, please?
Anyone can do it. I just posted a request to create
gmane.org.wikimedia.community.announce
(gmane.org.wikimedia.announce has been snarfed by Wikizine already).
Thanks, it's available now at URI:nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.community.announce. I usually refrain from doing these things myself as I find it helpful if the mailing list administrators are in the loop on related services.
Tim
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org