http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up in Italy.
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia-inc.com wrote:
http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up in Italy.
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/me claps
Good show, Italy. Knowledge is free.
http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up in Italy.
/me claps
Good show, Italy. Knowledge is free.
-- ~Keegan
Not so easy. Yesterday an amendment has been officially proposed, not approved. It will be discussed into the parliament camera, then into the parliament senate. Only if both will accept it without modifications it'll be valid.
Also, the government may ask for trust at the parliament about this law, and in the case it will be approved in its original form, without amendments.
Maybe your countries are more slender, but in Itlay we are very very burocratics.
That's simply a step, not the goal
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Jalo jalo75@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe your countries are more slender
If there is one thing that cannot be said of the denizens of the nation where Wikipedia is hosted, it is that they are slender. And we Brits will be similarly rotund by the end of the decade.
Bodnotbod
Not so easy. Yesterday an amendment has been officially proposed, not approved. It will be discussed into the parliament camera, then into the parliament senate. Only if both will accept it without modifications it'll be valid.
Also, the government may ask for trust at the parliament about this law, and in the case it will be approved in its original form, without amendments.
Maybe your countries are more slender, but in Itlay we are very very burocratics.
That's simply a step, not the goal
I agree with this.
It's very easy for politicians to say "Yes, we've heard what you have said and your views are very important to us. We'll definitely think very hard about taking your views into account." - and then completely ignore you.
Don't trust them :-)
Chris
So, the law was finally rejected or it was not voted yet?
2011/10/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
Not so easy. Yesterday an amendment has been officially proposed, not approved. It will be discussed into the parliament camera, then into the parliament senate. Only if both will accept it without modifications
it'll
be valid.
Also, the government may ask for trust at the parliament about this law, and in the case it will be approved in its original form, without amendments.
Maybe your countries are more slender, but in Itlay we are very very burocratics.
That's simply a step, not the goal
I agree with this.
It's very easy for politicians to say "Yes, we've heard what you have said and your views are very important to us. We'll definitely think very hard about taking your views into account." - and then completely ignore you.
Don't trust them :-)
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On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM, emijrp emijrp@gmail.com wrote:
So, the law was finally rejected or it was not voted yet?
It hasn't been voted yet. Cruccone
very often in italian history, italian politicians use to postpone votings. This is tactics: when people gets angry for a law proposal, they delay its approval saying "we trust you", with the hope that later people wouldnt notice the law proposal. About this law this has already happened: it was originally proposed in 2009 then delayed, now proposed then delayed because of our protest.
Il giorno domenica 23 ottobre 2011, Marco Chiesa chiesa.marco@gmail.com ha scritto:
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM, emijrp emijrp@gmail.com wrote:
So, the law was finally rejected or it was not voted yet?
It hasn't been voted yet. Cruccone
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Yay! Congratulations, Wikipedia Italy!
Matthew Bowker
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On Oct 5, 2011, at 22:27, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia-inc.com wrote:
http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up in Italy.
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On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 06:27, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia-inc.com wrote:
http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up in Italy.
Wikipedia needs to strike just one day to get requests fulfilled. That's good to know!
Congratulations to Italian Wikipedians on bold move with great result!
Yes in my opinion it.wiki can return online but a lot of user want to wait for the for the approvement of the law that can be at 14:00 UTC. In any case 48 hour of stop indicated by most of people end at 18:00 UTC. Discussion here http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Sciopero:_il_punto_ della_situazione.
Abisys
-----Messaggio originale----- Da: foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Per conto di Jimmy Wales Inviato: giovedì 6 ottobre 2011 06:27 A: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Oggetto: [Foundation-l] Given that we have won, can we turn Italian Wikipedia back on now?
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As I understand, the change has only been proposed.
Possibly another interesting issue will develop: the italian wiki was discontinued by a short vote or poll. I suppose the most democratric way to terminate it would be another vote or poll. How are they gonna have that poll if they locked themselves out?
Teun
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia-inc.com wrote:
http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up in Italy.
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The WIki is back online already. But the village pump page was (at least for the last day) available.
Lodewijk
No dia 6 de Outubro de 2011 18:17, teun spaans teun.spaans@gmail.comescreveu:
As I understand, the change has only been proposed.
Possibly another interesting issue will develop: the italian wiki was discontinued by a short vote or poll. I suppose the most democratric way to terminate it would be another vote or poll. How are they gonna have that poll if they locked themselves out?
Teun
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia-inc.com wrote:
http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
It'd be nice to have Italian Wikipedia back up as people are waking up in Italy.
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On 06/10/2011, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
The WIki is back online already. But the village pump page was (at least for the last day) available.
Lodewijk
No dia 6 de Outubro de 2011 18:17, teun spaans teun.spaans@gmail.comescreveu:
As I understand, the change has only been proposed.
Possibly another interesting issue will develop: the italian wiki was discontinued by a short vote or poll. I suppose the most democratric way to terminate it would be another vote or poll. How are they gonna have that poll if they locked themselves out?
Teun
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http://www.linkiesta.it/wikipedia-law
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