Hi Peter,
I hear and understand your worries. I’d like to reassure you that we are very aware of the fact that no single person and no selected group of people can speak for the community as a whole. This is one of the big challenges all such efforts have to tackle. Representation here is not meant in the sense of legal or political representation. But by speaking for themselves, we hope that volunteers and staff coming from different language communities, holding different roles within the movement and bringing different experiences of engagement with the movement into the process will at least bring diverse valuable perspectives to the creation of the draft for the Universal Code of Conduct.
Before they start drafting, they are already now working their way through a reading kit which will make them familiar with the input from the movement strategy process as well as prior community consultations our team has done at regional Wikimedia conferences and Wikimania as well as through facilitated conversations with 19 different language communities. The data is published on Meta here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Community_feedback... and here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Initial_2020_Consu.... This community feedback will inform the drafting process.
This draft will then be brought to the communities for review starting August 24, as outlined in the timeline here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct#Timeline. We are still looking for ways to make more people aware of this important part of the process. Please spread the word of this upcoming community comment period, to help us get wider participation!
I hope the above makes sense to you, looking forward to your engagement with the draft end of August and in September,
Christel Steigenberger (she/her)
Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
Hi Christel I am glad to hear that, and I hope that proper consultation will occur with all potentially affected parties, in places where they can comment and point out problems on user friendly or at least familiar software, over at least a reasonably representative range of languages, and with sufficient time to discuss issues without an excessively tight deadline. Speaking of which, what is the language spread of the drafting committee? Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Christel Steigenberger Sent: 31 July 2020 17:48 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation
Hi Peter,
I hear and understand your worries. I’d like to reassure you that we are very aware of the fact that no single person and no selected group of people can speak for the community as a whole. This is one of the big challenges all such efforts have to tackle. Representation here is not meant in the sense of legal or political representation. But by speaking for themselves, we hope that volunteers and staff coming from different language communities, holding different roles within the movement and bringing different experiences of engagement with the movement into the process will at least bring diverse valuable perspectives to the creation of the draft for the Universal Code of Conduct.
Before they start drafting, they are already now working their way through a reading kit which will make them familiar with the input from the movement strategy process as well as prior community consultations our team has done at regional Wikimedia conferences and Wikimania as well as through facilitated conversations with 19 different language communities. The data is published on Meta here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Community_feedback... and here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Initial_2020_Consu.... This community feedback will inform the drafting process.
This draft will then be brought to the communities for review starting August 24, as outlined in the timeline here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct#Timeline. We are still looking for ways to make more people aware of this important part of the process. Please spread the word of this upcoming community comment period, to help us get wider participation!
I hope the above makes sense to you, looking forward to your engagement with the draft end of August and in September,
Christel Steigenberger (she/her)
Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Hi Peter,
Thank you for coming back to me with this clarifying question and comment. And sorry for having broken the threading with my previous mail.
The community feedback will be mainly gathered on Meta, but we will try and reach out to communities on different channels on- and off-wiki to encourage them to take part in the process. We will also accept comments that come in through other channels and post them in aggregate form on Meta, if users are not comfortable going there themselves. While we are already spending time and energy to prepare for outreach in different languages, we are also aware of the fact that we cannot do this alone. We appreciate every bit of help from you and others on the mailing list, to spread the word that the community comment period will be between August 24 and September 23 and to help us translate the content in more languages than we alone might be able to do. If you know of good channels to spread the word, or know about people willing and able to translate the content into lesser known languages, please let us know!
Within the drafting committee we have people speaking 12 different languages that I am aware of - and possibly more. Besides English and Arabic, those are five European, three African and two Indic languages. In addition we have hired facilitators from the community who speak Arabic, Georgian, Persian, Russian and Swahili and we will be getting help from the translator’s pool in our communications department.
Please always feel free to let us know of other ideas to improve the process for community feedback gathering!
Best regards, Christel
Christel Steigenberger (she/her)
Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:44 PM Peter Southwood peter.southwood@telkomsa.net wrote:
Hi Christel I am glad to hear that, and I hope that proper consultation will occur with all potentially affected parties, in places where they can comment and point out problems on user friendly or at least familiar software, over at least a reasonably representative range of languages, and with sufficient time to discuss issues without an excessively tight deadline. Speaking of which, what is the language spread of the drafting committee? Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Christel Steigenberger Sent: 31 July 2020 17:48 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation
Hi Peter,
I hear and understand your worries. I’d like to reassure you that we are very aware of the fact that no single person and no selected group of people can speak for the community as a whole. This is one of the big challenges all such efforts have to tackle. Representation here is not meant in the sense of legal or political representation. But by speaking for themselves, we hope that volunteers and staff coming from different language communities, holding different roles within the movement and bringing different experiences of engagement with the movement into the process will at least bring diverse valuable perspectives to the creation of the draft for the Universal Code of Conduct.
Before they start drafting, they are already now working their way through a reading kit which will make them familiar with the input from the movement strategy process as well as prior community consultations our team has done at regional Wikimedia conferences and Wikimania as well as through facilitated conversations with 19 different language communities. The data is published on Meta here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Community_feedback... and here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Initial_2020_Consu... . This community feedback will inform the drafting process.
This draft will then be brought to the communities for review starting August 24, as outlined in the timeline here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct#Timeline. We are still looking for ways to make more people aware of this important part of the process. Please spread the word of this upcoming community comment period, to help us get wider participation!
I hope the above makes sense to you, looking forward to your engagement with the draft end of August and in September,
Christel Steigenberger (she/her)
Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Christel Steigenberger Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:50 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation
Hi Peter,
Thank you for coming back to me with this clarifying question and comment. And sorry for having broken the threading with my previous mail.
The community feedback will be mainly gathered on Meta, but we will try and reach out to communities on different channels on- and off-wiki to encourage them to take part in the process. We will also accept comments that come in through other channels and post them in aggregate form on Meta, if users are not comfortable going there themselves. While we are already spending time and energy to prepare for outreach in different languages, we are also aware of the fact that we cannot do this alone. We appreciate every bit of help from you and others on the mailing list, to spread the word that the community comment period will be between August 24 and September 23 and to help us translate the content in more languages than we alone might be able to do. If you know of good channels to spread the word, or know about people willing and able to translate the content into lesser known languages, please let us know!
Within the drafting committee we have people speaking 12 different languages that I am aware of - and possibly more. Besides English and Arabic, those are five European, three African and two Indic languages. In addition we have hired facilitators from the community who speak Arabic, Georgian, Persian, Russian and Swahili and we will be getting help from the translator’s pool in our communications department.
Please always feel free to let us know of other ideas to improve the process for community feedback gathering!
Best regards, Christel
Christel Steigenberger (she/her)
Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:44 PM Peter Southwood peter.southwood@telkomsa.net wrote:
Hi Christel I am glad to hear that, and I hope that proper consultation will occur with all potentially affected parties, in places where they can comment and point out problems on user friendly or at least familiar software, over at least a reasonably representative range of languages, and with sufficient time to discuss issues without an excessively tight deadline. Speaking of which, what is the language spread of the drafting committee? Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Christel Steigenberger Sent: 31 July 2020 17:48 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal Code of Conduct Drafting Committee - Call for participation
Hi Peter,
I hear and understand your worries. I’d like to reassure you that we are very aware of the fact that no single person and no selected group of people can speak for the community as a whole. This is one of the big challenges all such efforts have to tackle. Representation here is not meant in the sense of legal or political representation. But by speaking for themselves, we hope that volunteers and staff coming from different language communities, holding different roles within the movement and bringing different experiences of engagement with the movement into the process will at least bring diverse valuable perspectives to the creation of the draft for the Universal Code of Conduct.
Before they start drafting, they are already now working their way through a reading kit which will make them familiar with the input from the movement strategy process as well as prior community consultations our team has done at regional Wikimedia conferences and Wikimania as well as through facilitated conversations with 19 different language communities. The data is published on Meta here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Community_feedback... and here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Initial_2020_Consu... . This community feedback will inform the drafting process.
This draft will then be brought to the communities for review starting August 24, as outlined in the timeline here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct#Timeline. We are still looking for ways to make more people aware of this important part of the process. Please spread the word of this upcoming community comment period, to help us get wider participation!
I hope the above makes sense to you, looking forward to your engagement with the draft end of August and in September,
Christel Steigenberger (she/her)
Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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